3 Way Portable Fridge/Freezers
Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 10:47
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Hi. I am planning to purchase a Chescold RC 1180,3way Combo Fridge/Freezer (Gas. 240 &12V). I am told that the unit could run on a 9ltr gas bottle for 30 days.
I would like to hear some comments regarding these Units from current and former users. Everyone seems to like Waeco, EvaKool, electric Fridges but I tend to think that if u pull up at a non-powered
campsite, a 60ltr Unit will only run for approx 36 hrs on a Deepcycle or AGM battery before that Battery needs recharging unless of course you have a steady stream of Power, with Solar panels or a Generator.
Reply By: franga - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 11:03
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 11:03
Hi Nomads
I'll be brave and put my thoughts forward,
The type of fridge you buy really depends on where you are going to use it.
If you are going to use it in a cooler climate area i believe the absorption type ,which the chescold is would work fine.
If you intend to use it in the hotter climate areas, up the cape or over the kimbleys as an example the chescold type fridges really struggle, whereas the compressor type units handle it ok.
Just what type of compressor unit you go with comes back to what you can afford, how much room you have and how big you need it.
I have two 60ltr trailblazers, I bought them 2nd hand about 5 years ago one is in the back of the cruiser and has never been off other than to give it a clean, the other one is at
home as the beer fridge when we're not camping.
Hope this has been a help
Cheers with beers
Franga
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Follow Up By: Scoof - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 15:09
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 15:09
I will second that franga ,
Went to
Lawn Hill and
Karumba in Oct this year and sh#t it was hot and the 3way Frig struggled the freezer compartment really didn't do
well.
But the engel was doing a magic job.
Never camped in those hot condition's before .
If your budget can handle it I would go compressor type Frig.
Kind Regards Scoof.
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Reply By: JustT - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 11:47
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 11:47
I'm in the unique position where I own one of both.
If I'm traveling or moving
camp every day or 2, I take the Waeco, if I'm going somewhere to stay in the one spot for more then 2 days (when we do our annual fraser trip etc) I'll take the gas fridge.
I guess your decision depends on what your intended use is, and your budget.
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Follow Up By: Groove - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 13:46
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 13:46
I have owned both at one time and would second this opinion.
On Gas and staying in one place for any lenght of time (greater than 3 days for me) they are great. They use very little gas and get very cold.
But i found that when moving about
mine was very average indeed.
Cheers
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Reply By: Rod E B - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 12:16
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 12:16
I have had a chescold rc 1180 for about 20years and used it on gas , 12v and 240v
12v - just holds it between sites
240 - no problems
gas - no problems - jsu heep in then shade and
well ventilated
only had one problem 12v connection melted , replaced it with something heavier , both male and female a couple of years ago - still going , need to have heavy wire for your 12v source
love the divider , take it out each Xmas and use it to keep the grog cold
freezes quite
well
I would go again , but it would seem it will keep going
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 13:48
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 13:48
Hello Rod, where do you live ?? Does it handle 35deg heat OK ??
I have a Finch 36ltr and it is good in normal temps, but when its 35 ( or more ) it really struggles. And worse still, if you have a good drink ( more than 8 stubbies, which is about all it can hold with food as
well ) you have to start putting in warm beers which drag the temp down even quicker.
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Follow Up By: Rod E B - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 16:23
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 16:23
I live in
Sydney , but more to the point use when on the road
+35'c it starts to stretch , like any other gas unit
keep it in the shade
like the idea of the computer fan commented below
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 14:12
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 14:12
We have a Chescold 1180 and a Waeco CF50. We bought the Chescold in
Darwin in 1994 to
camp around the top end. It was good and has paid for itself in the ice we saved over the period we used it. In really hot weather the fridge section would only hold "cool" in the afternoon but the freezer section was fine and would really drop it down overnight.
like other above we use the Waeco if travelling and the Chescold if we are planning stops of more that 3-4 days.
The only time the Chescold let us down was a week of 40+ days and nightime temps of 32+. We bought the Waeco just after that trip.
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: buick - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 15:39
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 15:39
Hi Nomads
Ihave a 40lt Chescold and swear by it, But it depends on what you want.
My chescold will last around 30 days on freeze.
I have it in the back of the ute ( under the canopy)and keep it out of the sun.
I constantly use it in 45plus degree heat and it works fine
When travelling from place to place I use 12v which will only maintain temp.
When stopped switch to gas and make sure the fridge is perfectly level.
I always carry a small spirit level and a couple of small wedges to level the Chescold.
One small mod I made is I obtained a couple of secondhand computer fans and installed them in the top above the evaporater fins to extract the heat away from the cooling fins
Good thing is no noisy generators ,not having to carry petrol for gen setand not having to find space for the gen set.
Ideal units if camping in one spot for any length of time
Sylvia
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Follow Up By: Rod E B - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 16:28
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 16:28
keep
mine level , by eye
mught buy one of those cheap round (eye ) levels and glue it on
essential to keep it level
like the computer fan idea , have top work out best way to get 12v to it
have a computer fan in van fridge ,easy for the 12v , need to hook a couple of wires up to that
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Reply By: Auntie - Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 23:32
Wednesday, Nov 29, 2006 at 23:32
I've had the 40Lt. Chescold for 6 years now, and although it's pretty ordinary on 12volt, she's a ripper on 240 or gas, despite the temperature. Keep it in the shade, keep it ventilated, and make sure it's level. I bought a wooden bathroom base, about $10.00 in Bunnings. Get that level, then drop the fridge on to it. Works a treat. Used it in FNQ, the
Kimberley and NT, in very hot weather with no problems. I'm going to up my 12volt wiring, and should see an improvement then.
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Reply By: Nomads - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:12
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:12
Thanks guys for all the info. I see there are a lot for and against the Units. It seems there is a problem in very hot weather in the North. Sam the Auto Elect. from
Weipa made some interesting comments. Also the Units Not having a gauge or levelling indicator could be a problem.
I am now investigating the Waeco 60ltr. It seems that a Auxillary (deep cycle) Battery fitted to my Prado with a good quality Battery Management System may be the go. A Portable Solar system (80 watt) costing about a $1000 may be a good long term investment. I realise they are useless on cloudy days but then again up North in winter that does not happen very often.
I would now be interested to hear from you guys who have Portable
Solar Power (say the 80watt unit) who only use it for keeping power up to a 60ltr Fridge/Freezer and a few Lights etc. If I left the Solar Unit outside say from about 10am to 1pm, would that collect enough energy to put about 30 amps back into my deep cycle or AGM battery. The reason I am saying this time frame is because we would be probably absent from
our campsite during other times and I would be reluctant to leave the Solar Unit unsecured in case it got flogged. I realise energy produced would be greater in summer than winter.
I would appreciate your thoughts, thanks
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:28
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:28
another way to go is the christie generator smaller and lighter than solar panels quite and put out a constant 55 amps so easy to keep batteries toped up and only about $900. col
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Follow Up By: MartyB - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 19:30
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 19:30
Nomads,
Last summer I tried my 60l Engel on 80w of solar. Connected it up and left it run for a month. 80w of solar can supply enough power to run an Engel indefinately in South QLD summer. If you are worried about security then use some wire rope & a padlock.
Marty.
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Reply By: Rod - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 13:09
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 13:09
I've owned an RC1180, now have an Evakool 60L and 80W of solar. My experiences are:
I was very disappointed with my RC1180 in the tropics as it never kept up on gas, 240 or 12V. Even struggled in
Brisbane.
80W of solar will not run a 60L danfoss based fridge/freezer (Waeco/Evekool - cannot comment on trailblaza)unassisted if you intend to use part of it as a freezer. Believe me, I wish it would.
If you have an isolating type dual battery system in your vehicle and run it for 1-2 hours a day, plus supplement it with 80w, you will get by in the tropics. This is what I do.
I believe you need 100-120W of solar to run completely off solar in the tropics on an evakool/waeco.
If you are running as fridge only mode (eg 4deg), are in cooler climes, or have a unit with thicker isnulation (eg trailblaza) you will get by with less
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 13:41
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 13:41
A 'compressor' fridge is recommended up north for the reasons stated above.
Solar is available to do the work you require and has long term benefits that are worth the investment.
Use of a large capacity AGM Deep Cycle battery
120 watt solar panel (7+ amp)
and a decent solar regulator will deliver all the power you require.
Some of the more 'efficient' Solar panels available will also work in low light and 'cloudy' weather so don't be put off by adverse comments from people who don't own or use these more efficient (and yes more expensive) Solar panels :-(
I use a fridge that has a Freezer that keeps frozen in
Darwin, running off an 'efficient' solar system.
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Reply By: Dazz78 - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 15:13
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 15:13
G,day Nomads
I have recently bought the exact fridge that you intend to purchase and it is the second three way fridge that I have owned.
Let me begin by saying the new model is a vast improvement on the old one I used to own. The first real trip with the new fridge was to the Gulf about eight weeks ago with temperatures to about 35 degrees. I used it with the freezer partition removed and the only problem I had was the unit was actually getting too cold. I had half a a pumpkin and a bag of tomatoes that froze almost solid and this was with the fridge turned
well down. If you ever use your fridge this way I recommend keeping drinks at the "freezer end" of the unit and everything else as far as possible to the other end. It seemed to work
well on 12volt also.
The old fridge that I had was the 60l model with 3 inch insulation and on a similar trip a couple of years ago it really did struggle with the heat.
The greatest advantage of the compressor fridges is that they can cope better when loaded up with alot of warm material, e.g fish fillets. If you are mainly maintaining cold or cooling a few hot drinks the three way fridges are fine.
My opinion is that if you intend to be set up in any one place for a long period of time the rc1180 is an efficient and flexible means of refrigeration.
Regards
Darren.
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Reply By: tdv - Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 17:34
Thursday, Nov 30, 2006 at 17:34
I have this fridge and was recently up the cape (4 weeks ago). It was 37 degrees most days in the shade. We camped in the one spot for 8 days and it worked perfectly freezing some stuff that wasn't supposed to be frozen. It wasn't turned right up either. The only time it wasn't great was with the strong wind which blew out
the pilot. We weren't around for about 10 hours and that took its toll. It took a good 24 hours to cool down again. Luckily the esky was loaded with ice so we could keep meat etc below 4 degrees.
I found that on 12 volt performance wasn't great until I changed the original connector to an anderson type. It now gets quite frosty after a few hours driving.
In saying all that I plan to buy a small 12v fridge (25-30l) as a back up and pre chiller. I can shut it off when we stay somewhere more than
battery power provides.
Good luck
T
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