Nissan 3.0 problems in Navara's
Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:21
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mj1
G'day everyone
I'm soon to be in the market for a 20-30k second hander and like the Navara's 02-05 but I couldn't afford to fix it if the engine failed catastrophically!?! It would probably be out of warranty too.
Are the 3.0 failures as common with the navara's as they are with the patrols? I know its probably only 5% or something small of patrols that experience this problem but even that is a bit too much of a risk for me at this stage.
The other option is a suzuki grand vitara + trailer, the missus likes that one more but I want a ute :) Any experiences and comments welcome
Cheers
Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:45
Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:45
Hi mj1, I have had two vitaras the second one being the grand vitara. Brilliant vehicle, never had a problem with it mechanically, the main issue was luggage space and ground clearance and like to drink (13L to 15L per 100 )(9 per 100 when not towing) when towing but other than that it was a great vehicle. You have the same dilema my wife and I once had, she wanted the vitara and I wanted a dual cab, eventually I got one and sold the vitara the the above reasons only. It was a bleep load more comfortable than the lux quiter, she really missis it but I wanted the ground clearance and room to carry extra luggage and believe me if your wife is any thing like
mine you will need the luggage space even with a camper. Cant comment on the navara's but as truckster said you are lugging 2 to 2 1/2 tonne thats with out camper, lot of weight for a 3L engine in my opinion. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:02
Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:02
Hmmmm.... Lots of 3LT Pajeros running around towing campers and caravans. Have been doing so successfully since late '80s..... For that matter, lots of 2.6LT 4 cylinder Pajeros have been doing the same since early '80s with no dramas.
Nissan's problems have nothing to do with the size of the engine IMO, just poor design.
The reputation of the 3LT is enough to cross them off my shopping list. If you want a ute then pick from the Triton or the Hilux, although IMO the Hilux is way over priced, like all things Toyota ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 16:14
Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 16:14
Sorry MrBitchi, should have been too bigger vehicle for a four cylinder, why did nissan change from a 2.8 turbo 6 cylinder to a 3L 4 cylinder who knows. Yes there's nothing wrong with the mitsi 3L or the four cylinder prado's for that matter, but neither weigh as much as a patrol. But Im with you with the navara as far as not touching one just in case, and yeah 50k+ for a turbo hilux Id rather buy a new 100 series V8, depends on your needs I suppose. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: snow - Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:46
Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:46
I believe the main difference is in the turbo, the Patrol has a variable vain type whereas the Navara has the older style whatever it is (non-technical term) teehee. I think a search on this
forum will reveal a couple of Navs may have bit the dust but I recall one these being dusted (lack of maintenance).
I have an '03 Nav, bought at high 30K mark, 12 months later now has just over 70K without problem. I service it regular and whilst I do not abuse the vehicle I certainly do not baby it either. Consistent return of 10 km per litre both around town and highway. Used slightly more recently when towing offroad model "Johnno" camper trailer with 2 adults, 2 tin lids and likely 500kg in tray.
I have found the Nav to suit my needs both on and off road and I use to have a HIlux.
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Reply By: tuck 01 - Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 16:35
Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 16:35
The 3 litre TD Navara came out in late 2001. I had to wait a few weeks for
mine which I got just before Christmas.
I ran it hard for 3 years before I sold it to my
young bloke when I brought the 100 series.
It's now got
well over 100k on it and has not missed a beat.
It always performs very
well in the rough stuff. Its done several high country trips and he came on our Simpson trip in May this year.
Only failing is comfort level, but I don't reckon it is any worse than any of the little utes eg Hilux, Rodeo etc.
If a Navvie has been
well maintained, I reckon it is
well worth considering.
Regards
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 03, 2006 at 04:56
Sunday, Dec 03, 2006 at 04:56
Hi mj1
My Navara is a gem ! Sept 2003 build, purchased new !
Never missed a beat .
Done 96,000 km now and had it since new,, the only problem was that it had a severe case of " turbo-lag " , but one trip to a DYNO, took care of that.
Rides a bit rough, when empty, and I intend on doing something about that, in the new year...
Has got some grunt, and I still get 10km / lt economy, thats empty....
On our latest trip to
the desert, we ageraged 6.5 km /Lt, but we were towing a loaded up camper
There appears to be no issues, with the ZD30 engine,
In the Patrol, it is a " hand-granade ",,, most likely cause is the permanent high weight problem
Cheers Mate
Bucky
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