forester or ford escape

Submitted: Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:29
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looking at buying a 2003 forester x . or .a 2003 ford escape v6 both will ...be on lpg. both have about 60000ks on them price $19990 i do a mail contract run in the central west nsw average about 80000ks per annum salesman tells me both cars should do 300000ks with the proper maintanance has any one got any experience with either car... or recomend another other than a diesel i have been running diesels for the last 3 years and diesel is just to dear yes i have done my figures trust me
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Reply By: padler - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:41

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:41
BobnShaz, please do more research on the Ford Explorer. I have been a Ford bloke for 41 years and recently, i changed to a 4wd vehicle. I had picked out a Ford v6 Explorer and when i told a mate of mine, he asked "why one of them"? So i phoned an old mate who worked on Fords for many years and he told me not to go with it. So, i phoned the RAC engineer and he told me the costs of replacing the rear timing chain. This alone changed my mind, so i now own a Landcruiser and love the vehicle. Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:55

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:55
That’s an Escape not an Explorer he is looking at.

And that would have been the price to change 4 chains, 1 guide, 7 sprockets, 2 cassettes, 3 tensioners and partridge in a pear tree LOL. As the rear chain is never replaced on it own due to the time required to get to it.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:00

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:00
Depends on what you want - they are still rather different though both soft-roaders.

The Forester is a well built piece of work.

The Escape is a rebadged Tribute I think but probably has more space

The idea of long hot trips in LPG converted vehicles however, worries me, but only anecdotally - not from real experience.
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Reply By: BobnShaz - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:17

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:17
lpg worries me to but i would use both fuels not just lpg . just trying differnt options have been running aterrano 11 td for the last 3 years and has been a great car averages 10l per 100ks and now will retire it to a back up car 300000ks. diesel is just to dear where i live now and modern peterl engines seem to do a lot of ks now... cheers
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Follow Up By: Angler - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:23

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:23
The escape(tibute) uses much more fuel than the subie. (personal experience).

Both should do what you want at a fairly reasonable price.

Pooley
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 00:34

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 00:34
Any reason it has to be a softroader?

Could a gas Ford Falcon or dual fuel Commodore do the same run?

Escape does not have a lockable 4WD system at speed, unlocks itself at anything above 40-50 km/h IIRC. (Basically useless system, prone to overheating anyway when in use).

Subaru invented the softroader. True "all wheel drive". Used to be as reliable as you could get, certainly feel better about any Subie than some of these new things (Rav4/X-trail/Escape/etc).

Other options would be a lateish Suzuki Vitara/Grand Vitara.

Whatever you chose, make sure you can get a gas kit for it BEFORE you buy.
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Reply By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:48

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:48
Just sold the wife's 1999 forester GT with 200,000klms. It did not miss a beat & was probably the most reliable car we have ever had & would have kept it if it was not a turbo.(only had 2 CV joint boots replaced) hope the new x trail is as good
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Follow Up By: StephenF10 - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:56

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:56
"would have kept it if it was not a turbo"

Mind telling us why? A Forester turbo would seem to be a good thing to run around in.

Stephen.
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Follow Up By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:58

Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:58
Stephen its a very expensive engine to pay some one to work on, & every one i had met with over 200,000 had spent thousands on repairs. Mind you i had not met many & all were turbos. It was also time for tyres, rego, major service, etc so it made sense to change of to something new, it had very good resale value, also the x trail has a better tow rating (2000kg) & the wife & daughter can now tow the horse float (short distances) with one horse legally & i don't lose my vehicle.
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Reply By: HGMonaro - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:48

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:48
I had an manual '04 Outback (similar donk at the Forester although a '03 Forester is probably a 2L rather than a 2.5L as now... Outback bit heavier but maybe a bit more aerodynamic) and it used 10L/100 around town (city) and about 8L/100 on trips (hwy @ 110-115kph, some towns, bush tracks, etc). I think the Forester is going to better those figures which an Escape/Tribute isn't going to match downhill with a tailwind from figures I've read. I drove some Tributes (and Rav4, X-Trail, CRV) when buying the Outback and they drive like a truck in comparision. Subaru's flat 4 engines take a little while to get used to, different noises and power delivery (no need to rev it's head off, unlike a similar age Rav4 for example). Was very happy with the Subaru but sold it due to towing requirements.
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Follow Up By: John Davies - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:37

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:37
We have an forester X auto and get around 12l/100 around town and maybe 10l/100 on the highway.

We also get uneven tyre wear and this seem to be worse when laden.

The cargo area is also very small and when you put the donut lpg tank in the wheel well the spare tyre will take up most of your boot space.

John D
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 21:31

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 21:31
Wow John,, wouldn't have thought Auto would make that much difference... I never used to drive my Outback in "economy mode". Maybe ask over at offroadsubarus.com if that's normal.

Cheers, Nige
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Reply By: BobnShaz - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:03

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:03
salesman said he can get flat lpg tanks to go underneath,a need 4wd as 50% of the roads are dirt and if it ever rains here in this god forsaken place i will need 4wd on some of these tracks
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 21:40

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 21:40
You would be hard pressed to beat a Subaru (anything) I have covered huge parts of this land in an 01 Outback along with a mate in his 02 Xtrail and another in a 02 forrester, the only hitch we had in the entire trip was the Xtrail 4wd selector in very hot conditions deciding not to operate as a 4wd in the sand and reverting to 2wd.
I loved my Subie and still miss the dirt road handling of it. Very few other cars matched it for sure footedness in the dirt or on the road. 120000km and still sounded like a new car despite the corrigations and washouts i launched it through.
On Patrol
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