FIREFOX browser and this forum

www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Google is always right.

type in "failure" thenm click "I;m feeling lucky"

See, told you it is always right.

>Without Ms I wouldn't have a business and you wouldn't have
>anything to run Mozilla on. :)

I was using Unix (Linux) before Bill bought MSDOS. Firefox will run on that - there is more than one operating system you know?

I know,

I still make heaps supporting customers with Novell networks, and even more supporting Linux users - not. But I do use linux frequently (in Thin Clients.). And Os/2 is in high demand still.....

I have been reading for the last 10 or more years how Linux is ready to replace windows on the desktop, but these days the articles are just a reprint of the 10 year old ones, and still dreaming of what will never be.

Same goes for the bulk of SME server rooms - MS products deliver what customers want, Linux doesn't. (Its strength is ironically its weakness - open source is ultimately not a good basis for security.) If as many linux users existed as Windows, it could and would be hacked to death. Nobody bothers today (as with Apple) because there is no value in it - why try and bring down less than 1% of users when with the same effort you can bring down half the world?

In large enterprises Unix rightfully gets its guernsey. It's great if you can afford fees for the likes of SAP et al.

M$ is not the leader in the development of browsers. There was a delay of many years before M$ produced their first one. Since then they have always lagged behind Opera and Netscape. Last month IE7 caught up Firefox 1.5 - just as Mozilla was releasing Ff2.0.

"find and use an inferior alternative, then get add-ons to try and make it work like IE already does" There is a committee under the internet standards authorities that specifies web standards but Gates and associates think it is smart to to bypass these recommendations and do their own thing. That is why those who like to adhere to standards have to accommodate Bill's nasties and use fixes.

PeterD

One of my children learned to walk earlier than the other, but the other talked first.

Now they both walk and talk with no noticeable difference.

Just because you are a late starter doesn't mean you are backward.

After all, the developers of Mozilla and opera don't have many products to work on or support, do they. Er, just one each. And they manage to stay one iteration ahead of MS. WOW!!!

Haven't yet seen a business that can survive on Linux with opera on the desktop. Doesn't allow much word processing or other useful stuff for business.

IE lags behind Opera and Netscape????? Last time I looked at Netscape it was bloatware. Does it still exist?

As I said before, without MS my current business would not exist. I'd probably be a Toyota diesel mechanic, cause there's no stress there!!

Geeez Mike,

There sure is more than one operating system, wonder how Oziexplorer, Tomtom, etc will work on the greatest operating system ever Unix (Linux) LOL Linux has always had issues with the lack of drivers for latest peripherals.

I have been in the business for to many years to want to think about, and have had friends tell me how great this or that operating system is. Funny thing is they all come back to M/S and believe me with the amount of st##f ups I deal with daily I'm not going to say M/S is the best but it is the only one supported by over 98% of software manufacturers. You don't see to many POS systems running Linux etc do you. I have to agree with Gerhard here, you can even save yourself from some of the viruses out there by using things like Incredimail, but for ages they had no way of backing up address books etc (they have caught up now)

Just wonder what we would all be doing if Mac had won the fight, we would have 2 systems, One running all the Mac gear and a Amstrad for game play etc. I think when we all step back and have a look at how far the Home PC industry has advanced in the past 10 to 15 years we all unfortunately have to thank one Billy gates for most of it.

Well if you like it that way, but IE7 is trying to be like Opera the European standard. Have Opera on three or four here.

i agree- firefox is just a better browser. Ie has way to many security flaws and lets face it, its backed up by microsoft the most untrustworthy and known for their mistakes with software.

Save yourself the hassel and get firefox!

dave

The Grey Nomads

i can honestly say that ff has never crashed once for me. IE was always giving me the dreaded blue screen.

I see Mr Exploit that you are exploiting yourself by promoting your web site again, this is despite your personal assurance on this forum several weeks ago that you would discontinue.
Its easy to see you word means nothing.

Yep here we go Mr Exploit Site Link

Do you remember your post on 21st December 2006.........

"Dave: No probs wont be done again, sorry if you thought that way."

""I dont want to toot my own horn, or advertise my site etc cause i know its against the rules here"????"

Quote the Age - Adobe Acrobat PDF flaw discovered
January 4, 2007 - 4:05PM

"Computer security researchers said on Wednesday they have discovered a vulnerability in Adobe's ubiquitous Acrobat Reader software that allows cyber-intruders to attack personal computers through trusted web links.

The flaw appears to target Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6.0 web browser and earlier versions, and Mozilla's Firefox browser, the researchers said"

Come on Mozilla Firefox - catch up!!:)

Cheers
Greg

Greg

Post where and what you like you still can't convince me that M$ IE7 is any safer than Firefox - especially when all later marks are still using heaps of IE4 code.

IE7 only caught up with Firefox 1.5, FF 2.0 leapfrogged IE7.

I will still use Adobe reader 8.0 as my preferred solution to using IE6 with older versions of Adobe.

PeterD

Peter - Could not care less either way (I use both IE7 and Mozilla - currently using mozi to type this - both have their good and bad points) - I was just jesting:) sarcasm is not a good choice on forums I have found:):) anyway...

IE has been the target of most hackers due to the fact that it is the most popular in use (like it or not). Why upset 5% of browser users when you can upset 95% ...so your choice to use Mozilla (if only for this reason) is wise. Some people on this forum have even stated that Mozilla must be better that IE because it has less security updates....well get set for a change.. as Mozilla themselves have admitted, as the browser becomes more popular it will become the target of more unscrupulous hackers.

Quote - Symantec security response engineer, Candid Wuest "With the steady increase of the number of Firefox users we will see the number of malicious extensions created for Firefox grow," Wuest said. "Unfortunately, as soon as something becomes popular, it also becomes a popular target."

I have no idea if Firefox is/will be forever "safer" than IE to use (I doubt if you/anyone does either) as new threats are created/blocked every day. All I can say is stay vigilant with whatever browser you choose to use...and have fun. I use both so I am in real trouble:)

Cheers
Greg