Toyota Lc front end doesn't look to weak to me.!!

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 20:29

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Hi

was working adjacent to a toyo dealership today , and in lunch break had a bit of a wander through the yard. They had a few new L C out the front, and after hearing all the hype about the front ends in these things, I could not help but get down and have a quiz. In my opinion only you wouldhave to be a bloody rough operater to break these things, the clearance is not there, but steering arms, ball joint size control arm thickness &width looks pretty good overall!!. Maybe the topic on driving on corrugations needs to be looked at a bit more carefully by some. And i don't even own a toyota.

Cheers Axle.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 20:46

Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 20:46

I had two friends break their R front wishbones. One was on the Canning, and the other on the Madigan line. The first got carried out on the back of a truck, the second limped out of the desert very slowly, and was fixed a week later. It was just a weak spot near the torsion bar that may have had inadequate weld. Haven't heard of any recent models having the problem, so I expect that Toyota realised their mistake and fixed the problem.

But they are going to a strut front end (ala Prado) on the next model, so I don't think they trust the Torsion Bar IFS on that vehicle.

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 21:08

Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 21:08

Fair enough Phil, Bit hard to judge looking at them as far as a weld issue goes, but just though they looked pretty good overall.

Cheers.

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt Mu (Perth-WA) - Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 21:29

Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 21:29

You are correct Phil, they do know the mistake and have fixed it in production and all IFS 100s are inspected at the next service for suspect ones.
They have a small guage that shows if the weld on the arm is adequate or not (correct length).

Matt.

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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 21:13

Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 21:13

They have made mods from what I understand.

Toyota were doing a lot of blaming third party suspension and overloading ... which is pretty poor given the way they advertise it in their current TVC.

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Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 23:00

Wednesday, Dec 06, 2006 at 23:00

Toyota did a recall in April 2006 - wrote to ALL people who purchased 100S identified with the problem. Vehicles were inspected and I undersatand rectified where there was a problem. Got my letter from them In April and had the vehicle checked a week later - only took 15 mins - no problems identifieed - I have however had the ARB modification done when I replaced the suspension. Must say I have had nothing but good service from Toyota (although I have not used them since he vehicle has been out of warranty)

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Reply By: Mickr - Thursday, Dec 07, 2006 at 08:33

Thursday, Dec 07, 2006 at 08:33

This weld problem is not the only weak point! Came across a broken 100 series on the Anne Beadell which had the pin on the upper wishbone on the right hand side pull out. Temporary repair was tried with other bolts and the rubbers off the shocker but this only lasted a couple of k's. vehicle had to be abanded with about a 700km trek out to source parts and back again!

Mick

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