Waeco CF50 Combo Plug Getting Hot??
Submitted: Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:46
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Moggs
Hi,
I have a CF50 and have noticed that the combo ciggi/merit plug is getting quite hot. Anyone know why this would be happening? I have never noticed it before. It is plugged into a merit socket in the rear that is wired to the Aux. battery under the bonnet. The merit socket is in a bank of 3 and the other sockets used at this point do not get hot. I believe it must be the plug as the wiring all appears to be sound. Everything seems to be working ok, just concerned with the heat it is generating and that I might be at risk of a fire. Do these combo sockets wear out? Any advice greatly appreciated.
Reply By: Wizard1 - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 13:55
Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 13:55
It is quite normal...you need to appreciate that a lot of amps are passing through the plug ALL the time with no way of cooling down. I've pulled the plug out and got a bit of a surprise when I touched the positive tip. If you wiring was doggy then you'd blow fuses, etc.
Had my rear power setup for 5 years which consist of the normal Toyota plug, re-wired to the 2nd battery and a Narva plug. Have had no ill effects to the Waeco CF50 or anything else.
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 14:05
Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 14:05
ok, have never noticed it before. Just went and ran the plug off some merit sockets that are wired independently to the Aux. battery. Plug gets hot in all of these as
well, so am satisfied that it isn't a wiring issue.
I thought heat = resistance??? Never thought the plug would generate enough resistance to get so hot.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:14
Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:14
Moggs,
How hot are we talking?
The merit plug & socket are rated
well above the amperage your fridge would be pulling.
My guess is a poor, or dry joint.
Check for a good contact between the copper conductors and the plug connectors. Maybe some insulation is in the way.
High resistance joints equals heat and poor performance.
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:39
Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:39
It gets too hot to touch. I think I'll replace the combo ciggi/meritplug with a decent narva plug and see if it still happens. I pulled the combo plug apart and all the connections look ok, but will try a different plug anyway.
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Reply By: Moggs - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 20:14
Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 20:14
Thanks for all the advice.
I found the problem. Pulled the plug apart completely and there was a small short where the positive wire passed over the negative metal prongs inside the plug. The heat shrink that Waeco had put over the connector had worn through. I would have thought it would blow the 10amp fuse - but must have only being small enough to create some heat. All fixed now.
If your plug is hot then maybe
check that the same issue hasn't occurred.
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Reply By: Grandpa joe - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 21:46
Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 21:46
G'day Moggs,
I have a cf 50 as
well and have had problems with this cheap plug.
I replaced it with a Hella 8 Amp plug and used Put Hella part No. 4123-00 female sockets off the battery and the side of the 240v power supplies dc output.
Works a treat will not rattle around and get hot as they are a solid fitting connection.
The fridge pulls the least amount of power than any fridge I have seen, Just a shame they used a $2 plug instead of a $7 one.
My fridge is still going strong after 4 years and will definately buy another Waeco!
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Reply By: Robnicko - Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:29
Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:29
Moggs,
I have a CF40ac which doesn't get a hot lead but when you select the turbo function it will then flash the error light after about 2 minutes. I checked the voltage under load through the standard lead and it loses about 1.1 volts through it. I then made up a lead out of 6mm cable and plugged it into the fridge and socket and tested it under load. Voltage loss was 0.05volt and I did not get the error light flashing at all. I ran it on 7 led's and turbo for until it reached the desired temp and was very suprised because rather than -18degrees it actually went to minus 24.5 degrees with ambient temp @ 28 degrees. I really think the lead that Waeco supply is not up to standard and heats up because it cannot draw enough amps like jumper leads heating up when jump starting a car. I also spoke to a Waeco reseller in
Melbourne who has a CF40 and CF80 and he uses the lead from his cf80 on the cf40 as
well. It seems as though the cf80/cf110 lead is a heavier duty one. The only visible difference between the two is that the cf25/35/40/50/60 lead has a right angle connection and the cf80/110 has a straight connection.
Rob
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:13
Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:13
Hi Rob,
Not sure about the lead on the CF50. In my case it was the Waeco plug that was the issue. I replaced it with a merit plug and it doesn't heat up anymore.
Its disappointing isn't it - you would reckon that leads and plugs would be the best quality on a $800-$1000 item. At least it is cheap to fix I suppose.
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Follow Up By: ross - Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 13:49
Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 13:49
So its not just my fridge and plug. I just come back from a week away and 3 times that pesky plug come loose and let everything get warm.
Looks like its going in the bin and getting replaced with something of quality.
Cant wait to see a Waeco salesman at a 4wd show;)
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