Vic High Country....so disappointed

Submitted: Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 16:59
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Where off to the High Country on a 7 day camping trip end of December, coming in from Thredbo side. Been planning for 6 months.....just so disappointed. What to do?............anybody have the latest extent of devastation done.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:18

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:18
Wait and see.
But it does not look good for many months to come.
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Reply By: ed. - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:21

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:21
I was meant to go down there for 2 weeks as well.
But won't be going now as I fractured my leg.

Just saw on TV that Craig's Hut has gone :(
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Reply By: pepper2 - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:35

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:35
How about brindabella ranges or geehi
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:37

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:37
Geehi was beautiful, still a bit of smoke around but geeze it is a nice place we stayed there the last 2 nights. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:08

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:08
Check out 2 of my photos I have just down loaded on my members rig and profile. This was sunset 2 days in a row. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:10

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:10
Sorry forgot to mention these were taken at Geehi.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:14

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:14
Looks like there are a few of us on this site ;-)

We have already called off our trip.
A lot of the area has been burn't out if you have a look at the links on 4WD Vic.

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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:16

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:16
With these sort of fires, the biggest thing that kills the community is lack of income from tourists. Come and spend you money locally.

Come anyway and drop into a few farms along the way and learn how to do a bit of fencing and helping out. I'm sure there would hardly be a farmer out there that would knock back some "free" labour for the ability of you to be able to pitch a tent on their paddocks and give the kids a "Farm Stay" holiday.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:31

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:31
Im with Gary on this...

Most of these towns are bleep ed now, and with no tourism they will really suffer.

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Follow Up By: Nick R - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:38

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:38
not a bad idea Gary, wonder if it would work?
last year there was a thing where people could spend a day or weekend on farms which was very successful.
you should post it in the forum on the www.drought.org.au website.
would bridge the city-country divide and also be community building. the EOers that visit our farm seem to enjoy the insight into country life
thoughts?
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:44

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:44
After the 2003 fires 4wd Vic started a program to assist the fire affected farmers and graziers.

My own 4wd club replaced quite a few kilometers of fencing for farmers.
Also assisted with track clearing and survey work.

Maybe look to joining a local 4wd club who will know doubt become involved in assisting those on the land when its all over.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:53

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:53
yea our club has been involved even round the Grampians area from the fires earlier this yr.

There was a tour I think by LROC, round small towns, where people took off with nothing, adn bought everything as they went to spend in these towns.

I'll be running a few of these trips for our club. I suggest everyclub does the same.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 19:46

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 19:46
I agree with what's been said above. Don't cancel your trip but change the intinery a little. Tourism is what drives these communities and without tourism.....

Leroy
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Reply By: Kel Cruiser Man - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 19:56

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 19:56
A good place to go for updates on the Victorian High country fires is www.cfa.vic.gov.au

And here is a map of where the fire has been so far.

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/incidents/images/news_image/web_sentinel_map_20061211_1200_11775.pdf

hopefully the link works, if not it is on the CFA website
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 22:49

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 22:49
Try this:


Arrived in Mount Beauty about half hour before night fall.

Now we can see the fire light show decending the hill behind us. I can hear the dozers working up the back and there's a myriad of red and blue lights on the hill.

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Reply By: Des Lexic - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 20:46

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 20:46
We were up there 3 weeks ago with some other EO members and some locals at Mansfield were predicting then that the area would be closed due to the dry conditions and the possibility of fires. I think it could become a real possibility now as a result of the fires and I pressume their desire to save whats left. A fire as a result of careless camping would have disasterous results on the 4WD community right now as well as the loss of more bush.
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Reply By: SA_Patrol - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:15

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:15
Hi Richard, we were looking at travelling to Lake Dartmouth but might find it a bit far from Adelaide.
Pyrenees or the Otways might be our best bet now
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:33

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:33
wont be much water as they are running it dry for irrigation.

Leroy
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Reply By: tuck 01 - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:23

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:23
While I agree entirely with the idea of supporting these communities after the fires, please remember that the fires are still very much alive and growing.
The last thing emergency services, or the communities involved need is people driving into areas hoping to to find someone to help out.
Remember the staging areas are some distance back from the firegrounds so the emergency vehicle traffic needs the roads to be clear for some distance away. For instance, over the weekend Heyfield was the stage for Licola, Valencia Creek and Briagalong. CFA and locals were getting pretty annoyed by the amount of tourist traffic in the area.
The locals directly involved with their fires have gone to a lot of trouble to make sure they know who is in the area and where, so they can prioritise responses if required. They don't need extra people to consider.
Until the fires are beaten, the best thing everyone can do is make sure their own area is safe (so new emergencies don't crop up in new areas), thank our bosses for releasing CFA volunteers from work, and plan to follow up with support for these communities in the aftermath.
The communities above Heyfield are tremendously prepared, and if they do suffer losses when the monster comes out, it will not be through lack of effort and planning on their part. Hope for the best for them.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:44

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:44
>>CFA and locals were getting pretty annoyed by the amount of tourist traffic in the area.

Yup, had the same problem in the Janalli/Como fires in bleep ney in 94..
2 lane road into the area cliff on one side, rock wall on other, and cars solid like a carpark down the road trying to get in to have a look -

Took me 45+ mins to get the truck though , and we were still 3rd truck into the area. People couldnt understand why I was so bleep off laying on the horns and had the sirens blairing for the whole time...

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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:45

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:45
The idea (and what was done before) was to go up once the fires were out, one month to 6 months later. Generally help people out in rebuilding their lives.

WELL AWARE of the idiot rubbernecking tourists that have no concern for their own safety, let alone the poor rescuers that end up having to pull them away from obvious danger. No respect for them.

4Wders (Clubs individually, or 4WD association?) should approach the police to see if we could offer our vehicles/services as roadblocks on main roads 10km away from the fires (out of harms way). Quite a few ppl would have the appropriate OH&S qualification for traffic management.

There is a lot that 4WD clubs could do to assist the SES/CFA in these sort of circumstances.
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Reply By: Member - Kim and Doug (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:35

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:35
sorry to hear we are in the same boat
we were leaving this sat for 3weeks starting at dogmans hut near tom groggin and this year going east across high plains
last year went west and south to dargo back up to hotham and out down buckland valley
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Reply By: Richard of NSW - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 13:31

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 13:31
Thanks for the info..................just soooo bleep off.
A few of you in the same boat!!!!
Hopefully rain will come and no more homes will be lost.

How long does it take for the wilderness to recover from such devastation?
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 13:39

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 13:39
wait til it rains and come and have a look 4 weeks later. You will see green shoots from everywhere. Tree fern branches starting to roll out of a burnt stump. I'll try find some pics from after 2003.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 15:42

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 15:42
Problem is we need weeks or more worth of constant rain to wash the crap down the rivers and out to sea as rivers will be loaded with soot and ash...

Also to get into the ground. Most of the ground is rock hard and water doesnt get in like the chalk test.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 18:53

Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 18:53
Richard the majority of the tracks in the fire affected areas will most likely be closed till Easter, some not opened till November next year. (for safety)
The bush will be black for a few of months, with a little regeneration after that. This time next year the rivers & campsites should be back to some normality.
The bush was just starting to look good following the 2003 fires.
Cheers Craig...............
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