Royal Flying Doctor needs funds,,,,

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 23:40
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Gang,

The RFDS is need of funds,,,,,,,,,,,

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I give regularly as I spend time out there. It's a scandal that the RFDS is not government backed.

You or your wife 'n kids might just need 'em one day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and if we haven't got any RFDS, what will ya do then?

Bilbo
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Reply By: Hairy - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 00:11

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 00:11
Gday Bilbo,
I agree whole hartedly with what you saying BUT I know why it costs so much money to keep it in the air.
I have no idea on stats but I wouldnt mind betting that the largest expense is around the Centre?
When you see like I do, the amount of taxis runs they do for certain people that I wouldnt dare name you might possibly understand that Im a little non simpathetic.
Its comforting knowing they are there and would hate to see such a legend of an organisation fold, yeh Im sure they would love donations..
Cheers
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Reply By: Bilbo - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:20

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:20
Hairy,

I still wouldn't like to be without 'em. Particularly here in Western Australia. Once you're past Kalgoorlie there's next to bugger all serious medical help for the next 25000 kms or so!

I would've thought that running taxis and the like for our 'non-reflectives' would be reimbursed by the guvmint. Every other thing is!

Bilbo
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:53

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:53
You might be surprised to know that they are contracted to provide the planes and pilots for all retrieval & aeromedical fixed wing patient transfer work in Victoria and Tasmania (also venturing into southern NSW pretty regularly).

They provide the plane and pilot and we staff them with our Paramedics, Neonatal, Paediatric and Adult Emergency Retrieval Teams. (NETS, PETS, VEARCS)

So the long and the short of it is that if you have an accident in the North East, up around Mildura, down in the Otways or further west and you are too badly bent & broken to fix locally, the RFDS provides the plane to evacuate you to Melbourne to save/improve your life.

Likewise if a bub is born with complications or before it's due by more than 3 weeks they'll bring the NETS team up to transfer it to a major hospital equipped to deal with it.

They also transport fairly routine patients to Melbourne for procedures and appointments freeing up local resources to stay local and look after local people (& visitors) which is a vital role.

They are part of the South Eastern section based out of Broken Hill.

They don't just look after the outback.

As an example they would routinely fly in and out of Shepparton, Albury, Mildura, Swan Hill etc on a daily basis and sometimes upto 4-5 times a day. In Melbourne they have 5 planes - 4 of which operate weekdays dropping to 2 on weekends and overnight with one out of the system for maintenance.

Dave

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Follow Up By: Brian B (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:56

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:56
Dave,

Similar arrangements exist in QLD as well.

The old days of the ambulance service in QLD having its own aircraft are gone and in its place the RFDS carry out the work under contract arrangements.
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Reply By: Turist (The Original One) - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 07:56

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 07:56
The Bushtracker Owners are doing their little bit.
What are you doing? Check it out here.

Regards
Bob
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Reply By: On Patrol - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:13

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:13
I often support RFDS with donations and purchases on an annual basis and feel we would be lost without them. But sadly they too can become a target for CHC as their helicopters become faster and our govt's become greedier.

There is NOTHING more ICONIC than a service that was invented and born in Australia, and for that to go to a Canadian company would just be too much to bear.

Support these guys with not only donations but your loyalty too.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:23

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:23
Bilbo

While we all do our bit for the RFDS(which is a great service) they have been embroiled in controversy here in SA. They wanted to relocate the Port Augusta terminal to Adelaide for no apparent reason. This would have put medivac behind by 2 hours to the outback and then alleviate the problem of making contact people in Adelaide understand where exactly emergencies are occuring.

There was a great outcry and RFDS backed down and said that they would stay in Port Augusta. Now we understand that they are upgrading their facilites there for a cool $2 million. You have to have the money in the bank to do these things.

Meanwhile we are still being bombarded with TV ads about the next plane they need to buy at X amount of dollars.

Although I have not taken an in depth look at RFDS finances and funding I sometime wonder just how wasteful they may be.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:11

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:11
not Government backed?

whats this (from their last financial statements.....Receipts from Commonwealth Government 2005 yr $31,449,305.00 2004yr $28,402,297.00 ...paid services maybe, but they do they have a monoply?
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:19

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:19
digging futher into their reports

Australian Government Operational Grants 2005yr $20,285,685, 2004yr $21,598,919
Australian Government Rural Women's GP Grant 2006$2,000,038
2005$2,000,000
Australian Government Additional Grant 2006 $6,304,553 2005 $2,221,351

what is a grant ...they may not be 100% funded but that goes for nearly all services.
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Follow Up By: Dave198 - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:22

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:22
The RFDS branches have to finance their own aircraft and the Govt grants pay for the genertal runnung cost of the operation and staff etc.
The cost of the planes vary a bit due to the exchange rate of the dollar.
Broken Hill base have not too long ago bought their very first brand new Kingair. Up until that time, they never had enough funds to buy a new aircraft, it was always a 2nd hand one.
By the time they convert the plane with the big door ,
strenghten the tail area because of the rougher landing strips,
put 4 blade props on it because they are shorter than the 3 blades so less dust problem on the station strips, and the list goes on with the mods.
That's quite apart from fitting it out as virtually a small intensive car unit.
It doesn't look much like a standard aircraft inside.
All that is is about $7m.
Another thing is that these planes do a lot of hours and Broken Hill has 3 planes here usually, and they have to be replaced as they accumulate flying hours.
All the tins for fundraisng you see around the country are there to finance a replacement aircraft for the local branch.
So drop a few coins (or more) in them next time you see one.
They say that there can be RFDS assistance anywhere in outback Australia within 2 hours.
How long does it take a taxi to come to your house ??????
One of the fundraisers the Broken Hill RFDS have, there are many women from the local properties come into town in October and they make 2000, 1Kg Christmas puddings to sell to help get a new plane.
Imagine the time and work involved to make that many puddings.
And they are fabulous.
Not sure if it has anything to do with the 200 litres of brandy in the mix :-).
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:31

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:31
Back in to the mid 80's my brother was taken twice by the flying doctors from Marble Bar to Port Headland, once for a broken arm and once for a sevre ashma attack. We only had a nursing post that had the facilities about equal to the first aid kit in the 4by, I don't know the full details, but a little coin that would probably be wasted on an iced coffe or burger can't be much for everyone. Wheather you agree with their budget/funding or not I can gurantee you this, you would NOT want to get hurt out there without them, and that's just an indisputable fact.
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Reply By: Member - Rotord - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:07

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:07
The RFDS in WA produces a Safety and Survival Handbook which includes chapters on living off the land , vehicle preparation , communications , navigation , bush first aid , expedition skills and campcraft , survival, and much more . The police and hospital phone numbers are only for WA and the Northern Territory but the rest of the book applies Australia wide . This is an excellent publication written by experts , and all proceeds from the sale of the book goes to the RFDS . Buy the book for yourself , and support the RFDS .
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Reply By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:02

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:02
My understanding has always been that the Gov. provides for the operating expenses and that the capital equipment was funded by donations.
We can all help ( and many do ) by making donations, even if its just the odd spare change at a bar.
On my Tag Along Tours we always collect along the way, mainly from the participants, and then hand it over at a RFDS Base, often in Alice Springs.

Take a look at my members gallery.
Wouldn't one of those certificates look great amongst your trip photos :=))

Cheers,
Mike
!MPG:8!
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Reply By: cuffs - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:02

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:02
I only give to Angel Flights & RFDS and to myself.
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Reply By: GU - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 18:04

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 18:04
I am a proud member of the Melbourne Jeep Owners Club who twice yearly run a bush can collection trip to the Victorian High Country to empty bins for the sole purpose of cashing them in and donating the money to the RFDS.

Earlier this year we handed over a cheque for $2,000 to spokesperson, Annette
Allison (former channel 10 identity) of the RFDS who accepted on their behalf.

She spoke to us on the role of the RFDS in the Australian community and of it's extroadinary operational costs. A very entertaining spokesperson.

Looking at these large figures mentioned in the earlier responses makes our $2K
gesture look pretty miniscule but we worked hard for this and felt very proud of our efforts to help them.

GU.
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Reply By: Bilbo - Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 18:10

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 at 18:10
I would never question the RFDS and who funds what.

I don't want to know "who's porking who and who's paying".

I just want 'em there to get me & mine outta the manure business when the time comes.

It's a lonely place out there when it all goes "tittts up".

God bless 'em I say.

Bilbo
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