4x4 on oodnadatta track or not

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 11:57
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i was reading an artical that said your better of running in 4x4 up oodna track given that they say its not a bad road do you really think this is the go what do others think or have done.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:03

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:03
Better off....Yes!!
Need to.....No!!
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:13

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:13
This question has come up before......although I'm not sure why you've referred only to the Oodna' track?

My opinion is that we have paid a lot of money to enjoy the benefits of owning a 4x4. Why then, would anybody want to drive on a loose gravel surface without the added safety of using the 4x4 feature? Sure, you could do it in 4x2, but the safety aspects of being in 4x4 cannot be overstated. If you need to swerve unexpectedly, or if the road surface changes (like you hit a bulldust hole etc), you will have a far better chance of maintaining control if all 4 wheels are "working". Another benefit that many people do not think about is "braking". In a part-time 4x4, if you're actually "in" 4x4, then the wheels are just that much harder to lock-up under heavy braking.....once again this means maintaining a better level of control.

Just my opinion of course. The downside is that there is some extra wear on moving parts (of an inconsequential nature as far as I'm concerned) and some say that fuel economy suffers too (to which I say, "So What"???)......the amount of extra fuel used would be about a teaspoon every 20 klicks (just guessing; but it wouldn't be very much).
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Follow Up By: wazab - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:58

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:58
THANKS FOR THE REPLY ROACHIE THE ARTICAL WAS ABOUT THAT TRACK BUT THE QUESTION WAS A GENERAL ONE. GOING DOWN THAT WAY IN JUNE TOWING CAMPER YOUR COMMENTS ON BRAKING ARE SPOT ON 4X4 IT IS
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Follow Up By: T-Ribby - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 13:08

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 13:08
How does the Oodnadatta Track compare with the Birdsville Track?.
From recent photos I've seen of the Birdsville Track, it looks like a well maintained dirt road except for some gibber stretches of the Sturt Stony Desert. Is the problem drivers travelling too fast?. On such a trip, I don't want to hold back any other traffic, but I do want to drive carefully and enjoy the sights and the experience. I'm not concerned about using extra fuel or
wear and tear - it's more important to get there (and back) in one piece with lots of photos.

Terry R.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 23:37

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 23:37
Roachie

You must be talking about Nissan's as most Toyota's are AWD and would be alraedy taking advantage of the "safety aspects of being in 4x4" ;-)

I now I now

not mine LOL
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 13:15

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 13:15
If there's bulldust, it's wet or you're driving at high speed their would be some handling improvement otherwise is of little advantage. Drive in 4x4 or slip it in as required it really doesn't matter.
Cheers Craig...............
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Reply By: Member - Barry M (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 14:09

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 14:09
I didnt find it necessary (or desirable) to engage 4WD on the Oddnadatta Track,
Tanami track or GRR. That was a few years back & I dont believe that general conditions would have changed much since then. Probably change more within a season. However I would be concerned over possible effects of running in 4wd
when conditions suit travel over 80 kph. I refer to engageable 4wd not "Full time
4WD," which only comes into play when wheelslip is detected & the type on most late model vehicles today. I would have thought that using 4wd under such good conditions the same as using it in blacktop, that is not a good idea. Being
miserable ,I also consider it a waste of fuel & an unnecessary stress on drivelines.
Feel free to shoot holes in that if you wish, but I doubt you will change my mind,
or wht is left of it..cheers..oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 14:54

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 14:54
I wouldn't have gotten up the Oodnadatta in October last year without 4wd - in fact we got bogged getting into Farina Ruins.

Might have had something to do with all the rain, and the track was only open to 4wd at the time.

Generally I find mine handles better and much more predicably on a winding gravel track say heading into the 'gatta from Myrtleford in 4wd, but I could drive it in two.

Ron Moon and many other respected experts give the rationale that you do less track damage in 4wd also.

You aren't going to get wind up on a straight gravel/sand or other unsealed track.

As for fuel, if I was worried about the difference in fuel I wouldn't be out there towing an offroad camper. I get a 25% improvement by leaving it home and taking a tent.

Dave
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 14:59

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 14:59
Footnote to above, did the Tanami in 2wd though. No need for 4wd on that crossing. Could be if it were wet though.

Dave
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Follow Up By: wazab - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 16:19

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 16:19
thanks dave had a look at your site good stuff we have the same rig mines 2001 2.5 diesel trayback with a canvas canopy goodyear atrs at the moment no complaints the oodna trip will be on new goodyear mtrs with the atrs on camper trailer. just about to get tjm suspention upgrade plus 120 ltr tank . i have a basket type roof rack up top. do you load yours up when you tow your camper as well.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 23:03

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 23:03
I try and keep the basket empty so I can clean up roadside timber at times. Particularly when my supply is getting low.

It's not an ideal place to put heavy wood but a small supply isn't bad and we just bop along anyway. Small supply topped up regularly rather than overload it.

Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47
Tend to agree with Barry one this one. Given my old troopie hasn't got a centre diff, and you have to get to 80kph to get over some of the corrugations, I chose not to use 4wd on either GRR, Tanami, of the O-track - didn't miss it.

Mitchell Falls road is another matter though - definitely helped!!!
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Reply By: wazab - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 15:30

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 15:30
here we go with the old question what tyre pressures new goodyear mtrs 235\75\15 ive had advice any were from 20 -40 psi
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Reply By: Member - Arkay (SA) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:04

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:04
Depends on when you are going. As one earlier reply hinted at, various sections of the road are on occasions restricted to 4WD only, or completely restricted to all vehicles. Depends on if you have the time and patience to wait if you get caught.
I remember one occasion about 4 years ago when we were rained in at Innamincka waiting for permission to proceed down the Strezlecki Track and on the HF radio we heard of a group of assorted tourists on the Oodnadatta Track who were stationary for 3 days between 2 swollen creeks. Some had no food (or inadequate) and they had to arrange a food drop. We only needed more grog (and never got it - bugger). On another occasion 2 years ago (in June) we were at Alice Springs having just come down the Tanami and every road in the Outback that was not bitumised was closed to all traffic for several days. On other occasions you could drive the track in a Barina and get away with it.
'Course our transport is permanent 4WD so we don't have a choice of 2WD.
For current road conditions check out www.transport.sa.gov.au and follow the link "Road Reports".
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:22

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:22
Ditto to Roachie - our vehicles earn so little of their "keep" in true 4x4 work mode that we should employ that hadware to any good effect - I mostly run my transmision in 4x4 mode on any gravel roads. Lots of other things will wear out before the front drive system on my chariot. Re the Oodnadatta track ? Last September I came down from Oodnadatta - smooth as a baby's bot - must have been graded recently and had a lovely top on it - we met some desert rally type bikers from Sydney who were going up the track and had been hitting 140k at times - mad to me, but they seem unfazed by it all. The BV track, even when graded can have some quite stony sections that never benefit from grading - same as the Strzelecki - the Oodna is often lovely from end to end (rain being it's main problem, it seems).
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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:16

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:16
Gday Wazab
Last year my brother did the Oodnadatta track in an almost new Holden Caprice ( i think that is the model,,top of the range ) and had no trouble ,,other than driving on the top of the windrows.. Some chap in a hotel asked Pete if the car was stolen because he said no one would drive their own car there.....

Anyway, he made it home and all is ok.
Enjoy your trip.
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Follow Up By: wazab - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 21:19

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 21:19
hi muzbry the reason the original artical i was reading got me interested was i come from outside a country town have spent years driving on dirt roads in trucks 4x4s and cars the only time most farmers use 4x4 is in the wet no one has time to be stuffing about with tyre pressures so they stay at what ever the local tyre service sets them at cant remember the last time i got a flat.
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:53

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:53
You may take a new car on most of Australia's tracks...but you'll bring an old one home !
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 14:46

Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 14:46
Simple really,

drive to the conditions.
If loose rock, wet etc then 4wd.
If hard packed clay then why bother.
I have driven that track several times and it will vary.
As Crackles said just slip in in and out (the 4wd i mean) when necessary.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 18:37

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 18:37
Theres a fair bit of opinion suggesting that engaging 4wd would prevent some of the many rollovers that happen on these well maintained wide gravel roads, such as the Oodnadatta track.
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