oil in air intake

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:15
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how is everyone i was wondering is there an oil trap you can buy that takes all the sludge out of top of the teppet cover before it goes into the air intake it cant be good for the turbo or anything else and im going to install a intercooler soon and dont want it to fill with oil. I could make one but it would look home made and i want something that looks like its supposed to be there

dd 4x4
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Reply By: howesy - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:19

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 17:19
It's called an oil catch can and even Super cheap auto sells them. They even have an external clear tube so you can see when it's time to drain it.
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Reply By: awill4x4 - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 18:54

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 18:54
They do work when built correctly, but most of the one's commercially available are little more than a canister to redirect the air/oil mist. They will still work up to a point but not as well as a properly internally baffled catch can will.
They work by allowing the oil in the mist to condense and the clean air to be redirected back to the air inlet.
The ones I have been involved with in the past were all internally baffled and also had stainless steel scourers to further separate the oil.
Some people like to redirect the oil back to the sump but if you've seen what comes out of the catch can that's the last thing you want back in you oiling system.
If you do buy one of the commercial ones make sure that the fittings are at least the same size as the hose fittings currently on your rocker cover and air inlet. If you don't, you can pressurise the engine which will cause you problems elsewhere.
Regards Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:00

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:00
yep spot on andy, all the $ 80-100 specials that autobarn etc sell to the rice boys are just empty tubes. Peterson make a nice "proper" seperator for around $300 i think they are.
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Reply By: hoyks - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:03

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:03
You might be interested in this:

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"Oil catch cans will cause problems for a diesel engines if fitted.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Oil-Catch-Can-intercooler-turbo-exhaust-nissan-subaru_W0QQitemZ4599049761QQcategoryZ32624QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

About 300km ago I fitted one to my Turbo diesel Nissan Terrano, thought it was a good idea and nobody told me it wasn't.
Basically all oil catch cans have small 1/4 inch piping, which is totally inadequate to handle the larger volume of blow-by air that a diesel engine produces. (Due to the higher compressions).
Due to the restrictions that the small dia piping has, I was effectively pressurising, tapot cover, sump, all oil lines, turbo etc...
So only after 300km, my turbo let go, the oil seals busted out and dumped huge amounts of oil into the inlet side of the turbo. The turbo is currently being rebuilt by the blokes at MTQ in Rockhampton.

As soon as they opened the bonnet they knew what had caused the turbo to fail. They specailise in turbo diesel engines and the like. There solution to the problem is that they use common old 1" line strainers, (The same things you can find at any local pumping and irrigation business)
www.monarchindustrial.com.au/inline.html

So inclosing, if you have bought and fitted one to your diesel, rip it out.
P.S. if anyone thinks I am wrong, in any of this, by all means post something.

Thanks
SantaAus"
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:33

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:33
It is a strange world SantaAus but about 2 years ago I had problems with oil leaking out of my turbo, went into MTQ in Rockvages and they sold me a catch can and I used the same size hose that was on the tappet cover and so far no problems. I would have had to have done 50Ks I empty the can every service 5Ks.
The problem I had with the oil coming out of the turbo was I fitted a Unifilter sock when I put my snorkel on, had a Unifilter in air box as well.
Anyway they may be new people working there now and have different options.
Cheers Bruce
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Follow Up By: hoyks - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:42

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 20:42
I just coppied Santa Aus's post from Thu Dec 22, 2005 .

I think the issue was that the kit supplied was for a small 4cyl petrol and the catch can just wasn't up to the job, air flow wise.

Pete.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 21:14

Sunday, Dec 17, 2006 at 21:14
No worries should have seen that thank for the rply.
Cheers Bruce
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Follow Up By: dirty dirty 4x4 - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 02:02

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 02:02
whats the best way to clean the oil out of the intake turbo ect can i spray something in there or do i have to take it appart
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Follow Up By: hoyks - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:03

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:03
Probably a can of contact cleaner or Carbie cleaner would be easiest. Just make sure it has all evaporated before putting the pipe work back on and starting it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:04

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:04
Take it apart and then spray degreaser thru it and wash out with water and leave to dry.
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Follow Up By: dirty dirty 4x4 - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:45

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:45
what about the turbo spraying carbie cleaner wont damage any bearings will it
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Reply By: Sea-Dog - Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 14:44

Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 14:44
I have made up an oil catch can myself out of plumbing pvc and hose fittings etc..

I have to admit it took me a couple of goes to get it to the point where I am happy.. however now that I have it all under control I am very happy with the result..

I have put a bolt and threaded nut on the bottom of it all to drain the oil out and every now and then I just unscrew it and let the oil run out... normally only about 50ml or so.

The main reason I put it together was that after a long drive when I took off in the morning the motor would leave a big plume of smoke behind me until it burnt off the oil that had been layered onto the walls of the tubing etc and was leaking down the pipes overnight!

I was told by a few people that this is a very bad practice to use a catch can as if it is left to fill up and the car goes up on an angle etc it could potentially dump a heap of oil in the turbo in one hit.... I really don't think that is an issue though for someone that maintains their motor regularly....

Cheers
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Reply By: Sam from Weipa Auto Electrics - Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 16:45

Monday, Dec 18, 2006 at 16:45
I have been told that if you're turbos leaking oil that you're seals gone in it and needs rebuilding?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:05

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:05
Mine has not leaked since I removed the snorkel filter, so there must be another seal they are talking about.
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Reply By: Sam from Weipa Auto Electrics - Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 12:18

Tuesday, Dec 19, 2006 at 12:18
I think i'm talking about the exhaust side sorry
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