Girl killed by "4WD with bullbar" at Toukley

didnt see the report, garuntee she would have died anyway, even if there was no bullbar, or if it was a normal sedan, why was she on the road and why weren't her parents holding her hand etc......nothing to do with the bullbar and the vehicle being a 4wd i bet!

Do we REALLY need to post this stuff on here guys??? This is a great forum for what it's for, there's a website called Rotten .com for that crap. All we need is doom and gloom on a great website, after walking in the door from a hard days work. If I want to hear that stuff I'll watch the dreaded news, or sooner or later, we will read it in the paper.
But to post it CONTINUOSLY when it happens on this site ??? Come on !

i agree

get a life will you

the fact that news bulletin stated it was a "4wd" is mearly reporting the facts

same thing applies when it is a "high powered sedan"
"p plater"
" elderly driver"
just the facts mamm

donks

Boring, boring, boring.

Why don't you post, kid killed by train, child run over by bus, teenager died after falling off a tree?

Hi Omaroo.

Your post is a very sensitive issue to the wife and myself at the present moment.

On monday morning our grandchilderen were in a car that was involved in a head on collision at Budgewoi just a few ks down the road from toukley, they are in a stable condition in John Hunter hospital at the moment. They were two very lucky kids, It makes you realise the value of a childs life, and my heart goes out to the parentsof that child involved in that accident at Toukley, i know how much they must be going through. To all those worried about their 4x4 image, bullbars etc, think again!!!. theres a lot more important things in life.

Regards Axle.

Dont worry about what scrubby says.

It is all so sad.

Sadly there was a young boy bushwalking in the Blue mountains this week and he died.

So walking is dangerous too mr scrubby.

By the way, during the search for the missing lad, many 4WD vehicles were used.

D

Constantly amazed by the number of people on this forum who rush into print without doing at least a modicum of research on an incident.

If anything is written or spoken that could possibly be perceived as being even slightly critical of 4wds then their eyes roll over and a red mist covers their brains. We 're not paranoid are we, no, we KNOW they're all out to get us

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A simple search will provide at least some info on the incident. Maybe we should read one or two articles before venturing an opinion.

As everyone seems to have well and truly had their grumpy pills today (it was the same at work - i don't know why just today was so bad), i am tempted to join in where i normally keep well away.

It is sad to hear of the loss of a life, particularly a youngster, from any cause.

We all know you are just as likely to die if you jump in front of a travelling vehicle, what ever it's make or type.

We do notice that the press zoom in on 4WD, as though they not a vehicle, but something quite different. They do jump on the bull bar bit too. It does make us angry.

Grumpy too (must be this daylight robbery bit they call daylight saving over here).

To you Axel - I'm sorry. I hope your grand kids are OK soon. There's never a "good" time for this to happen.

To the rest of you, I'm surprised. "Get a life", "boring", etc......?????? Where the hell did this come from? I'm a solid contributor to this website and I don't think that I deserve this crap form you. If you're tired of anti 4WD news, then put up with it. These people want to stop my lifestyle and I'm pretty damn upset about it - always have been, always will be. If you think that my post was in bad taste, then I couldn't care less. If no-one keeps the pot stirring then no-one is going to turn up to the pro-outdoor lifestyle rallies like I do. It'd be nice to see some of you lot there one day when Newnes and other great places like it are handed over to the Wilderness Society because of public apathy and the mis-information slapped oround by Scruby and people like him.

My last post on this bloody forum.

Every minority interest group gets up in arms about this sort of stuff.
Go onto any Forum of any hobby-jap 4 cylinder imports, V8's, rock fisherman, smokers, cat owners, old age pensioners, jet skiiers, etc etc etc.

same goes for a region-Cronulla, Palm Island etc etc

If the media couldnt report who did what, then your headlines would read-
"Someone did something somewhere, and someone got hurt"

The fact is, that there IS a problem with some types of bullbars hitting pedestrians, and some types appear a lot less likely to cause serious injury. Some will cause a person to go straight under the vehicle at even 5 kmh due to striking to high up.

Sure pedestrians shouldnt get in the way, but with that thinking we wouldnt have seatbelts, collapsable steering columns, airbags, crumple zones etc either.

And yes I own 2 4wd's, both with bullbars, and live in the country.

So I think, unless it is a direct attack on your hobby, rather than just a couple of words in a tragic story, then get over it. If you try whinging about this to someone who has no interest in 4WD's, they would likely tell you just that!

Mate, keep posting your bullbar stories... I love em, it keeps reminding me about that anti bullbar/4wd idiot from Melbourne (I think) who pops up on a regular basis, you can almost see the dribble falling off his lips the way he raves on about these "implements of death" & he goes up a gear when mentioning rod holders/aerial mounts or other attachments. "May as well mount butchers knifes" The anti 4wd lobby is alive & well. Who was it that said… “Eternal vigilance, is the price of freedom”? Cheers RG.

Yes Omaroo we all put up with anti 4wd news , however my remark was to kindly, please ...why does it have to be reprinted on the pages of Explore Oz?? Does anyone , apart from my mentioning of it now, write about the 3 kilo gold nugget that was found in Vic this week!!?? NO.
I would love to see how quick to post the death of your own child .,if you have them, on this forum for the world to see. What I can say is though .good on you for attending 4wd support rallies, but in the same sentence dont use that to cover your previous mistake. My wife made a mistake last week and crashed the car, but did I want to divorce her and beat her to a pulp ? Think about it ...next time all you need to do is put your brain into gear before opening your mouth. Have a good Xmas.

A little OT... is your rig pic from the top of the jump up on the burrup?