Camera - which one to buy

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One for the camera gurus,
Am purchasing a camera, a gift for SWMBO, 2 choices the major diference is one is 6 megapixels but has the large screen to view your picture, the other one is 9 megapixels, but only has a small screen. Both have 10 power optical zoom, 28-300mm zoom range, I am leaning towards the one with the large viewing screen.
Will 3 megapixels less have any dramatic effects on the end photos bearing in mind not only for portraits but taking those landscape pictures out in the remote areas that we often visit.
Appreciate comments.
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Reply By: Sea-Dog - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 17:25

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 17:25
I believe there will not be much of a difference at all between the two depending entirely on the processor...

I have just bought myself a camera and after all was said and done I ended up with a Sony DSC H5.. 7.2mp with a 12x optical zoom and a heap of other features and couldn't be happier.. the price was very competitive to anything else on the market.. and it has a 3" screen which is still easily seen in bright daylight.

I have taken a couple thousand photos with mine now and am very happy with it... looks a little different to a lot of others on the market but for ease of use and longevity of battery life between charges and all that stuff I am wrapped!

If that is the sort of thing that interests you bypass the camera stores and get in touch with Sony Central as they will beat their prices anyway...

Hope that hasn't confused you too much...

by the way at 7.2mp I get a picture that is photo quality at A3 size (twice the size of a standard A4 piece of paper) which makes it great for cropping etc and not losing any of the quality for a 6x4 print.. It also has a great digital zoom which brings it up to 24x zoom and still has great quality with very little if any loss of quality..

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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:06

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:06
"great digital zoom"

No such thing :-p
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 17:37

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 17:37
Magapixels is not as important as they would make you believe. A good 2 megapixel camera will take a photo which will print to A4 paper.

Optical zoom is important. Digital zoom reduces quality.

One of the most important things to look at is the quality of the lens. Make sure it has a good quality lenses. Some cameras have poor quality persplex lenses and should be avoided.

I do not use the LCD screen for taking photos as a rule. I use the viewfinder. The size if the LCD screen is not important.

If you look at some the the computer magazine sites online they have their product test and this may assist you in you choice.
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Follow Up By: Longreach - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 18:05

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 18:05
Agree with you Kumunara and I too, dont use the LCD screen to take photos, I much prefer the viewfinder. However I disagree that the size of the LCD screen is not important. Although I use the viewfinder to take photos, I still use the LCD screen for the menus and to review photos if I dont have a computer handy. If you have good eyesight, then perhaps the size of the LCD screen doesn't matter but if your eyes aren't so flash, then the bigger the LCD screen the better. Especially if it lets you get away without putting glasses on.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 18:20

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 18:20
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Treated my self o one of these babes the otherday$775 with 10 megapixels and 12 x optical zoom. However this can be adjusted to 24x optical zoom and if you compine that still further with the digitalzoom it wacks it out to 85X whichis more powerfull than my telescope. You can make out a guy working on the lighting towers at the waca all the way from South Perth
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 18:21

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 18:21
Oh yea and forgot to metion they come with a leica lense - this is the company that make the precision survey gear at work
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Follow Up By: Wetty - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 19:48

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 19:48
I have the smaller brother of the FZ50 being the FZ7, beaut camera, but for what I am now doing there was only one choice and that was to go SLR. If money is no option, the Cannon EOS 1Ds Mk II is a very nice camera ($9000.00) but if you go for a Cannon EOS 5D like mine you can't go wrong.
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Reply By: PajeroTD - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 19:58

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 19:58
you have not specified u want full manual features, so unlike all the other experts i wont recommend a DSLR unless you are going to use it. I am really impressed with the Richoh R5 it has 7 megapixels and 7 times optical zoom, and fits in your pocket very easily, very slimline and has a large LCD screen as you wanted. the lens is quite nice in my opinion and you can't go wrong. My father bought one, and also uses a Nikon D100 with $10,000 of lenses - and we are all impressed with the results of the Ricoh. Sometimes bigger cameras you leave behind, because you might get it damaged, stolen or its just too bulky.
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Reply By: atoyot - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 21:17

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 21:17
If your looking at 10x + zoom, check out cameras with optic image stabilisation. Some work and others don't work as well. Canon and Sony have decent image stabilisers, but there are probably others. Check out a href="http://www.dpreview.com/">this link; they have good reviews and the buying guide will give some decent advice.

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Follow Up By: atoyot - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 21:20

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 21:20
Whoops, try this instead.
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Reply By: Member - Andy Q (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 22:25

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 22:25
G'day the nugget, Panasonic Lumix, great camera, our's a few years old but still going strong

andy
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 22:36

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 22:36
Big mega pixels is great if you want to print pictures almost the size of this farm. If you want mainly trip photos, with a bit of margin to trim when you get them on the computer, 5 mp is more than adequate. My first digital was 1.3 mp. I took a close up of a flower to test it, and on my 19" monitor at work it was still perfectly clear with no pixilation. I used it back in the days of film photography, just for something i may want to blow up and cut out a tiny bit later. It was adequate for that.

Most simple 'pocket' digitals have 3 x optical zoom which is useful. 10 x would be better, but may increase the size and weight of the camera. I want something light in my back pack when i am climbing the mountain.

As Davoe says Leica lens are one of the best. The picture will be only as good as the lens.

I like the big display, although i generally use the viewfinder for taking the photo, the display is good for checking the photos as you take them. They can also be 'cropped' while still on the camera (with most modern digitals).

Check the size of the memory card, and cost of bigger ones for use when travelling. The larger the mp picture taken, the more room it takes up, so for travelling, she well may cut back on the size to that which a 1, 2, or 3 mp camera would take to fit lots on. I travel with a set of card, include a 2 gb and 2 x 1 gb. I think i was getting around 80 photos at maximum with a 5.i mp camera on a 1 gb card.

Check if rechargeable batteries can be used or come with it, and type and cost.

Big mega pixels is great if you want to print pictures almost the size of this farm. If you want mainly trip photos, with a bit of margin to trim when you get them on the computer, 4 or 5 mp is more than adequate. My first digital was 1.3 mp. I took a close up of a flower to test it, and on my 19" monitor at work it was still perfectly clear with no pixilation. I used it back in the days of film photography, just for something i may want to blow up and cut out a tiny bit later. It was adequate for that (see below).

Most simple 'pocket' digitals have 3 x optical zoom which is useful. 10 x would be better, but may increase the size and weight of the camera. I want something light in my back pack when i am climbing the mountain.

As Davoe says Leica lens are one of the best. The picture will be only as good as the lens.

I like the big display, although i generally use the viewfinder for taking the photo, the display is good for checking the photos as you take them. They can also be 'cropped' while still on the camera (with most modern digitals).

Check the size of the memory card, and cost and availability of bigger ones for use when travelling. The larger the mp picture taken, the more room it takes up, so for travelling, she well may cut back on the size to that which a 1, 2, or 3 mp camera would take to fit lots on. I travel with a set of cards, include a 2 gb and 2 x 1 gb. I think i was getting around 80 photos at maximum with a 5.1 mp camera on a 1 gb card at maximum size.

Check if rechargeable batteries can be used or come with it, and type and cost?

If you are interested, the following should take you to one photo I cut out of the centre of a photo taken with my 1.3 mp el cheapo BenQ - the wasp nest was about 1" tall. The picture has been further reduced (thumbnail) to place on the website. It is still clear.

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In summary, i cannot see why you would need anyhting bigger than 5 mp.

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 01:02

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 01:02
good point about the memory card and same goes for the battery- they are hidden costs. All cameras need another at least card. My camera came with a 32meg card which is good for about 8 pictures - yep you need to spend another 150-200 bux on a 2-4 gig card. and dont even think you only need the factory battery - another 40 bux is required or the second ------ then there is the camera case
Bottom line my 775 bux camera becme 950 and that is jst coz I already had a case.
Potrtability is a huge issue. My Lumix 50 is about the size of a tradiotional slr without the need for lenses.. for me this is the blance between portability and an SLR which wont fit in the backpack when walking - not to mention the lensees.
A smaller 3x camera is totally portable and will fit in handbag. Remember the best cmera in the world cant get the shot if it wont fit and is at home.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 23:42

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006 at 23:42
whats a camera
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:02

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:02
when you get a fine a the post you'll know
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:14

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:14
You never said if you want an SLR type or a compact. You say it's for SWMBO so I'm assuming (based on personal experience ;-) that you'd prefer a simple to use compact.

Best value compact around at the moment is the Canon A710IS, 7MP, 6x Optical.

Personally I'd steer clear of Sony as they use their proprietary 'memory stick' cards which are not used by anyone else.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 23:21

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 23:21
How can you say to stay clear of Sony

"they use their proprietary 'memory stick' cards which are not used by anyone else."

Why is it a problem that they use memory sticks not used by other brands, there are numerous generic brands that fit the Sony, and the Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick PRO Duo and Memory Stick PRO Duo (High Speed) are some of the fastest memory available.

I have owned about 12 or 13 digital cameras, Minolta, Canon, Nikon, Kodak and Sony, I have at present a Sony DSC 828 as a non SLR (this uses all the above memory plus another slot for Compact Flash) The only time I will go away from Sony again is if I need an SLR and at this time that would be a Nikon.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 23:46

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 23:46
I LOVE my Sony.

Also MrBitchi, i meant to add to my previous post, pick one that the card is easy to change. It seemed that every time we were in a cave, i needed to change the card. The Sony card was easy to change in the dark. Those with a tiny card or 'chip' would be a disaster in these circumstances.

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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 09:04

Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 09:04
Blaze, my point is not that it's a bad technology, just not interchangeable with any other brand of camera, or any other device, other than a Sony. Sony make great cameras. I just don't like proprietary stuff. I've been in this electronics game for far too long to go down that route.

Motherhen, I can't remember the last time I changed a memory card. Using a 1GB SD card I never seem to fill it up before I download to the laptop ;-) I am an untrusting soul so I download to Laptop ASAP so I have more than one copy, which means at least daily. I've never even come close to taking 300+ shots in one day.
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Follow Up By: Sea-Dog - Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 13:08

Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 13:08
I have not long come back from Europe for a month and took my Sony DSC H5 7.2mp.

I used a 4gig Sony Memory Stick while I was away and took 1274 photos which was close to filling the card but not quite.. at full resolution (I had a couple more up my sleeve anyway if I did fill it). I think the camera is capable of taking great shots and if I want to enlarge one right up I will have less distortion if the pic is of higher resolution.

I find that the memory sticks are reasonably cheap on Ebay too.. I picked up a 2 gig high speed Sony memory stick delivered for $60..

Don't worry too much about whether the cards are interchangeable or not as I buy a card for my camera and that is what I use it for...

The added bonus of the Sony is that it uses the rechargeable AA (only 2 at a time) and they last for hundreds of shots before requiring changing. I find this to be quite unique as my friends with different brands seem to be constantly changing batts where I just keep clicking away!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 22:04

Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 22:04
MrB, On my last trip - 3 months and 4,000 photos - my laptop was not back from repairs (horror story), so i purchased a selection of used memory cards from eBay. I could take hundreds of photos before going to a public computer point to burn them to CD. Next trip i hope to download every night. As you know, the cards are also standard when it comes to using a card reader.

Yes, the two rechargeable AAs last well and are easily recharged when on the road. I can even use regular AAs if caught out, as most of the small appliances take AA so i keep plenty of regular and rechargeables when travelling.

I find my Sony a little heavier than some of the modern digitals, but that also indicates more durability.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 15:58

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 15:58
Hasnt this been done to death 3 times in 2 mths?
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 23:05

Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 at 23:05
Snap Truckster,

Only thing I will add that I don't believe has been mentioned before, being in the trade, I would stay away from any camera that uses a XD card if possible. (dearer and harder to get readers for)
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Reply By: live4theweekends - Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 08:27

Friday, Dec 22, 2006 at 08:27
Hi Nugget,
We have a Sony DSCH1 5.1 megapixel with a 2.5inch screen, 12x optical zoom and image stabiliser. I have had a couple of other smaller digital cameras and I would have to say I love the bigger screen. It is much easier to see at a glance whether you are happy with the photo you've taken or not. I dont think you will notice much difference at all between a 6 megapixel and a 9, but IMO the larger viewing screen is definately worth having.
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