dual battery problems 2003 Prado
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i have a 2003 Prado and it came with dual batteries as standard. Firstly, I have no idea when it comes to wiring batteries or electrical.I think the second battery is not charging! The rear socket doesnot work, and this is because i think it runs off the second battery.I am looking for a affordable, good auto electrician or company that can take a look at this problem in
Brisbane and also run a seperate wire to run a RC1180 Chescold fridge and i want to run a Waceo off the socket already there. I would also like to run a battery set up on my
camp trailer so i would need wiring for a trailer plug or something so i can charge all three batteries while driving and a low voltage cut out or something like that. Can someone please point me in the right direction so i don't waste money on systems or things that are not going to work or have high maintenance.
Thank you
Reply By: Road Runner - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 00:04
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 00:04
If you are on the western side of the city I m able to recommend the ARB store at Sumner
Park. They installed a dual battery system in my 2005 TD. The installation included a heavy duty cable and plug wired into the jack door in the rear to power an Engel. They also wired in an anderson plug to charge the camper trailer batteries.
Price was reasonable. The job neatly and professionally installed ... so the Toyota service manager said.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:38
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:38
They maybe able to do a neat install which is important but can they trouble shoot problems?
Leroy
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Reply By: Leroy - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:43
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:43
You will be asking a lot of your battery if you want to run both fridges especially the power sucking chescold! But as long as you get it on gas as soon as you stop travelling it shouldn't be a problem. You will need a separate wire run for you fridge then you will prob need another for you trailer using an andersons plug/skt arangement. But I don't know anyone in Bris :-(
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Reply By: prado_95 - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 15:26
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 15:26
Are you using the cig ligher outlets in the back?
Is there voltage when the ignition is turned ON?
The cig lighter/power outlets are controlled by the ignition switch - they go off with the ignition (from memory).
The other issue is that the factory wiring is not suitable for use on fridges - you need proper cabling to run one fridge, let alone two fridges.
I would suggest you run both fridges from a single decent run of cable. From memory the chescold will draw up to 10A, and the waeco about 6A, when running. The waeco's used to have a low voltage dropout that would trip at about 11.5V, and disconnect the fridge from the power supply until reset. Remember this isn the voltage seen at the fridge, and it may dip below the threshold when the fridge switches on.
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Reply By: Member - Mike_L (SA) - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 20:00
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 20:00
"i have a 2003 Prado and it came with dual batteries as standard."
Are you sure? As far as I know they never came with factory second batteries. Must be an aftermarket job.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 20:33
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 20:33
You have a huge can of worms there.
#1 Your dual batteries have been fitted by a previous owner. We assume that you have an isolator (redarc, Pirahna, Rotronics etc) between them, so the starting battery never runs out. There are different types of these things - tell us what youve got.
#2 Your rear sockets are for small power consumption items like lights - not fridges, and they only have power when ACC is on. Your Chescold will draw over 10amps continuously, which is way more than a socket can handle. Your Waeco will probably cut out because of the skinny wiring on the factory socket. You need to have a fused thick wire from your 2nd battery to the rear of your vehicle for fridges, and a decent connector - not a cig socket, that melt or fall apart.
#3 Your Waeco (a compressor fridge) can be left running in the vehicle overnight because it uses little power. Its the better type to have in the vehicle.
#4 Your Chescold (a 3-way fridge), but is very inefficient on 12volts - it will flatten your 2nd battery overnight, and the contents will be warm in the morning. So it needs to be taken out of the vehicle and run on gas overnight. Dont try running it on gas inside the vehicle - you will blow your car up. These fridges don't work
well in hot weather, they need to be perfectly level, and it can be hard to regulate the temperature in them. People who buy them, generally like to
camp in one spot, and they will run for a week or two off a cylinder of gas. You can run it off a good 12volt supply in the car while driving only.
#5 Camper trailer battery is complicated. You'll probably find some massive debates in the archives. But you'll need thick wiring through to the trailer, anderson plugs at your towbar, short-circuit protection at each battery, and the trailer battery needs to be
well earthed.
You're right - you need a good auto-electrician to do it. Hopefully someone from
Brisbane may make some suggestions.
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 20:36
Thursday, Dec 28, 2006 at 20:36
And I forgot to add that Derek from ABR is a sponsor on this
forum, and comes from
Brisbane - perhaps he can put you onto the right people, but I think he's on holidays for a couple of weeks.
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