R134a Refrigerant Gas
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 00:39
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rustytruck
Does anybody know where the small cans of this gas are available in Australia - preferably
Adelaide? Have just run out and having difficulty locating them.
Thanks
Rusty
Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:22
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:22
Hi Rusty
With the new rules you must be licensed to buy a/c gas in any form. They have removed easy accessible gas from the public.
Regards
Derek
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:40
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:40
As Derek says.... refrigerants are now only available to licensed tradesmen.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:25
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:25
Even if you got some you need specialised equipment to use it, the system has to pulled down with an 'evacuating pump' to remove the air & then the gas is drawn in to fill the void, it isn't just forced in under pressure like filling a gas bottle, because any remaining gas has to be captured.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:46
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:46
sort of.....not quite correct but i know what your trying say....
he should leave it to those who know eh?
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 15:45
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 15:45
Yes .... but times have obviously changed because that was how it used to done, I have had it done literally hundreds of times.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 18:18
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 18:18
Yeah, should cost less than $100 to get it done by a auto sparky or similar. The only problem is that the mongrals fiddle with all your gear while it's there! GRRR.
Last time I had it done they had managed to nearly flatten 200amp hours of aux battery in 4 hours and things were turned on and off all over the bloody place... Won't be going back there again... AND they left the caps for the gas valves on the starter battery, found them when I got home and was checking they hadn't screwed anything up...
Stuff knows what they were doing with my old girl while it was there... Jump starting a spitfire perhaps?
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Reply By: Mad Dog - Vic - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 18:24
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 18:24
Those cans were taken from the shelves nearly 20 years ago.
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Reply By: Member - Richard S (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:51
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:51
MMMM....... We get so many customers who think your car air con just has to be refilled every now and again.
Refrigerant just doesn't leak out for no reason, it has to go somewhere. We ask the people who tell us ""it only needs a top up" if you had a car tyre went flat every week or so what would you do, "Oh I would get it repaired because it must have a leak in it."
Your air con should last for years and years before the refrigerant gets to low to show a drop in performance.
There are many reasons why you should have it service every year the main one is to pick up on any small problems before they turn it large expensive problems.
You can get you car air con regased (I hate this word, bit like a doctor putting a
sign out side there clinic saying "If you cut your self badly and need stitches come to us because we can save you money and the pain and us bandaids instead" anyway as I was saying you can get you car air con regased for $70.00 if you tried hard enough.
We call ours
SERVICES because that is what we do, a complete air con service and finnish the job properly and be proud to put our name to the work.
It brings me to thinking years ago when I was riding motorbikes there was a saying $50.00 helmet, $50 head the same goes for air con servicing $60 regas $60 car........anyway thats my 2 cents worth if you are going to get it done get it done properly........you've got me started now
Regards Richard
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Follow Up By: rustytruck - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 23:20
Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 23:20
Better chuck all the books, gauges and certificates away then. Was qualified after the TAFE courses but haven't done any for a few years now due to work right out of the area. Thanks for all the concern out there but before getting on soap boxes, maybe assume some qualifications. Was just asking a question not seeking opinions.
Rusty
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Follow Up By: Sam from Weipa Auto Electrics - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:21
Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:21
I completly agree with richard s 100 percent its illegal to gas a system that is know to have a leak so if a workshop or person is dumb enough in todays day and age then they should get in trouble.
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Reply By: Member - Richard S (SA) - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 14:23
Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 14:23
Well rustytruck if you are qualified then you should have known better, Im not having a dig at anything or anybody just stating the facts.
Most people who are licensed or are in the industry knows about the new laws and people using DIY cans of refrigerant.......there is a lot more to air conditioning then just filling it up with refrigerant.
The car air con industry has been full of too many backyarders for to long, with the new laws and regulations hopefully it will clean it up.
Now to the use of refrigerant.........Opps! thats another day. ( Im not against it but it should be regulated.)
If I have offended anyone or anybody it was not my intention to do that...so sorry in advance.
Regards Richard
And rustytruck what is stopping you (or why) from taking it to a qualified person for the work to be carried out.
Most refrigeration businesses will help out ex refrigeration people because we are all from the same industry.
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Reply By: brett - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 21:23
Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 21:23
15 years ago you could buy cans of R12 off the shelf, then the greenies decided it ate the ozone layer and got it banned and replaced with the more friendly less efficient R134.
There were regulations brought in regarding the capturing of the old R12 and had to be done by licensed people to stop the R12 eating the ozone but as the R134 is ozone friendly are their any regulations on filling/recovering with this gas, I thought it was as safe as fly spray, don't need a license for that.
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