Staun Deflators

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:02
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Hi all,

am intending to buy a set of these soon before heading off on our trip out to the centre in April/May (probably the "yellow" set which has 4 @18PSI and 2@22PSI for the CT). My question is: is it viable to reset 2 of the 18PSI jobbies to 25PSI for dirt roads etc? This would give a better spread of quickly available pressures but would involve each deflator doing at least two tyres - or would this be quite a slow process?

Any thoughts by knowledgeable persons will be muchly appreciated.

Thanks
David
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:09

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:09
Didn't even know you could buy them preset. The 'standard' ones can be set to whatever pressure you want. Instructions come with them. I suspect the same is true of any preset ones as well.
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:20

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:20
David,

Are you sure you are looking at Staun?
Same as the other post, mine came as a set of 4 and unset. I had to set them as per instructions to my choice of pressures. I did two at one pressure and the other two lower again.
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - David A (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:25

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:25
Hi Mike,

this is off the staun website:

"Your 4 Standard deflators are preset at 18psi and the 2 Heavy Duty deflators are preset at 22psi. "

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Cheers,
David
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:23

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:23
David,

As long as they're like the standard ones (adjustable), it should'nt be a problem at all. It will take a little longer, only a few minutes. Nothing to be worried about.
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Reply By: pling - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:27

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:27
Friends use them and we are always waiting for them to air down. Very slow to use. Why waste the money?
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:51

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:51
?????????????

Musn't be using them correctly, because they are heaps quicker.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:37

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:37
pling
As Matt M has said, your friends must be using them the on the wrong setting etc. They are far quicker and I can have 4 tyres down to my pre set pressure, while others using the tyre gauge method have only 2 tyres done. Tell your friends to make sure that they have them set correctly.

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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 13:46

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 13:46
I have had no luck with them.

I put them on the tyre goes completely flat then I have to pump them back to correct pressure.

I also must be doing something wrong.

All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 15:55

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 15:55
Eric,

You didn't by chance end up with the low pressure set they do for beadlocked rims did you?

Might be worth talking to Staun or your supplier because they are extremely reliable once they are set.

They come preset to 18psi. They are fairly easy to adjust to alternative pressures though. From memory half a turn clockwise increases the pressure 3psi - half anticlockwise reduces 3 psi. I could have the directions ar$e about. It's on the card in the kit in the ute.

The alternative is that you set a tyre to the pressure you want.

Then undo the locking ring on the cap of the staun and back the locking ring right off until it's nearly off the stem.

Screw it onto the valve and wind the tail in until air just starts to release and back it off half a turn.

Lock the collar nut up and it's done.

Do the other three and then chuck them in the glove box.

Of course if yours are the low pressure ones the maximum pressure you can set them to would be nearly flat on non beadlocked rims.

Dave
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Follow Up By: 4Harves- Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 19:54

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 19:54
I would not leave home without them.

By the time you have walked around the car to put them on its time to start taking them off.

No Problems.

Highly recommended.

Chris
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:51

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 21:51
You may want to consider the ARB Deflater that came out in the last year. For $55 you get a tool that screws onto the valve stem, easily undoes the valve and while you let out heaps of air, you can check the pressure by sliding a valve. I'm always letting down to different pressures, so have not bothered with Staun.

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Follow Up By: Member - David A (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 22:23

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 22:23
Hi Phil,

That's a new one for me...

what is the accuracy like? Does it let air out so fast that it's difficult to make small adjustments? If it undoes the valve, is there danger of the valve insert flying off into the desert, or of it damaging the valve?

Sorry about all the questions, but $50 saved is at least 5L of fuel...

Thanks
David
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:49

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:49
David,
I bought mine in October, when they first came out, so haven't had a lot of use yet.

But its a nifty bit of gear. That brassy bit screws over the stem with one thumb wheel and the other wheel screws out the valve - its all enclosed. You can't lose the valve. The fat bit is a sliding sleeve - slide it out and the air pours out, slide it in and the air stops and the gauge measures pressure. I checked the gauge against my other gauges and it appears to be accurate within 1 psi. Air pours out at a great rate, so you should be able to air down very quickly.
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Follow Up By: Member - Nutter (QLD) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 15:48

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 15:48
I also have one of these ARB Deflators, found them to be quite quick,takes less than a minute to do each tyre 285 x 75 x 16 from 36psi down to 18 psi,also you are not locked in the any pressure, don't know how quick the stauns are, hope this is some help.

See ya
Guy
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 16:05

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 16:05
A minute a tyre is still slower when you can only do one tyre at a time.

The advantage the Stauns have over all the other methods is that they do four tyres at the same time - six if you have a set for your camper.

They may be fractionally slower in a 1 on 1 race against the ARB gadget - which looks really good by the way, I was looking at one in the 4wd shop here the other day - but in a 4 tyre to 4tyre or 6 to 6 challenge I'll put my money on the Stauns.

It's a horses for courses thing.

There's very little need to have the ability to drop tyres to a huge variety of pressures which is the percieved advantage of the ARB device.

If I'm going off road on fire trails or high country tracks I run 22 in the front 26 in the rear (loaded usually for a weekend or more) and that's it. I don't have to change them unless I get stuck and that's not usually an issue.

If I'm playing sand it's 18 front and 22 rear.

Match the pressure on the camper to the front tyres and thats all. I'm not going to haggle about 2 psi here or there. There's no point.

I've generally found the Stauns stop +/- 1 psi of their setting each time if I run a test on one Staun over several deflations.

If I didn't have Stauns I'd probably try the ARB one out but it won't fit in the glove box, where the two packs of Stauns take up hardly any space at all.

Dave
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Reply By: Wayne-o - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 22:11

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 22:11
they come preset to 18PSI, and yes you can adjust them to whatever you want!
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 01:21

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 01:21
Short answer is yes.

I have two sets of four. One set all set to the pressure I use most, the other is split for sand and the camper trailer.

You can't argue with the speed or simplicity of the device. I'll take the Stauns over the ARB deflater any day.

I put the first on and move around the vehicle putting one on each wheel. If the first isn't finished by the time I've done four it's pretty close and I just move around and take them off.

Quick and easy.

Most of my mates have at least one set,

Dave
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Follow Up By: Ozrunner - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 15:47

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 15:47
Yep have to agree.

Why anyone would want to kneel next to their tyres in the hot sun constantly checking pressures and making sure they don't drop a valve etc etc when they could be having a drink, smoke or whatever is beyond me.

The choice really is a no brainer but each to his own I guess.

Stauns are the way to go as there's no human element involved, no need to hover over the tyre checking and no chance of losing anything.

I did a stopwatch test deflating my 4 tyres manually etc versus using the Stauns and all in all it was no contest.
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:35

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:35
Hi, I purchased a standard set of four and then on sold two to a mate. They are quick and easy and I only need two (set at 15 psi for a swb Pajero).
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Reply By: HK - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:43

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 08:43
Have just returned from a trip to coffin bay and used the ARB deflater .Way quicker and better than staun as doesnt need to be pre set.Can adjust to any pressure.
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Reply By: Zig-n-Zag - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:03

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:03
Holy clap batman!!

Now we are going to have the Staun vs Others debate to add to the NITHAN vs TOJOTA vs all else, tyre vs tyre, etc.

To each their own, each system probably has their plusses and minuses.

Without differences we all would be driving the same vehicle, using the same fuel supplier etc etc. Just as well there is choice otherwise what a boring world we would have.

As long as you have a way of deflating the tyres in a manner that suits you, use it.

By the way I have Stauns and also a set of flow through valve deflaters that I have not used since getting the Stauns.

I did reset mine when I purchased them and found it could be a tricky business to alter the preset pressures and required trial at home to ensure they deflated to the required setting.

If it takes 2 minutes or 2.5 minutes to deflate the tyres does it matter (unless the tide is coming in and you need to get out a sticky situation fast).

Had a great weekend in the Beachport Sand Dunes with very few other 4x4's out there now that the tourists are going back to work. Les sdamage to fencing etc this year than in past years which is great to see. :)))
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 11:02

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 11:02
G'day Zig-n, see a good pic of the dune there, had fun there Friday. Just after that there was a group we met after Stinky Beach that had about 7 or 8 goes getting off the beach. Nearly a rollover at the bottom of the climb. Reckon that one guy had a change of togs! We were eating lunch at the time but watched the driving skills through barnoculars - not the togchange mate.

Was Nick R and family too......
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Reply By: Steve63 - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:28

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:28
I believe they are all adjustable (have not seen any that were not). There are two types though and the have differennt maximum (and minimum) pressures. I use split rims so tend to run the pressures higher. I had to get the higher pressure set. I use them in pairs 2 for dirt roads and two for sand. Each set has some coloured tape to identify which pair they are. It is still quicker than by hand and easier on the back. If money is no object you can fork out for 2 or three sets.

Steve
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Reply By: ross - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 17:41

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 17:41
Ive had my Staun deflaters for a few months now and they would have to be one of the most cost effective accessories I own.
Ive used them for getting onto the beach about 15-20 times and they are faultless.
By the time the last deflater is in place ,the 1st tyre is almost ready,I dont even get time for a beer,well almost;)

The MAX AIR Bushranger then pumps all four 33in BFG tyres from 18psi-36 in under 15 mins including packing away time.

Rapid tyre inflation/deflation makes life so much easier
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 20:38

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 20:38
I've heard via the grapevine that the next edition of 4wheelingoz will be out in another week or two and will run an article comparing deflaters.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 21:04

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 21:04
Hi David,
I've got a set of 4 Staun's that where given to me as a gift.
At the time I smiled and thanked the giver whilst thinking "what a wank" Well, how wrong was I.

Thought I may as well give them a go. I set 2 at 16psi and 2 at 28psi. I painted the 16's red and the 28's green.

Now days I wouldn't contemplate a run along Stockton Beach without the red set. Easy to use, fit the pair, have a chat. Shift them to the other 2 wheels and all done.

I'm a fan but hey, each to their own.

Geoff
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 21:42

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 21:42
They are a nice set of ornaments

I have a set of stauns set at 18 psi.....but most of the time I use a mall stick. 18 psi is only for sand. Most of the time I am deflating to 25 or whatever on gravel roads

If you have money to burn....yes. I should have saved mine

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 22:18

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 22:18
Hi Willem,
I used to use a small stick too. But a few years ago lashout out and updated to a one inch bullet head nail - bent it over my keyring.

But the ARB deflater is a nice gadget and I'm a sucker for that.
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 22:41

Monday, Jan 15, 2007 at 22:41
Hey Willem

I must have money to burn. I own two 4wd's :-)

oh and two sets of stauns. one set to 18 one set to 26 psi, but I hardly ever get to use em. Always lending them and while others use them I use a stick.

Phil maybe I need an ARB deflator for myself.

:-)

Oh ..let me be serious for one second. I find the Stauns useful but they aren't always accurate, varying plus or minus 3 psi in my experience. So tho they are fast to deflate the tyre, in my experience, extra time is required to check the tyres and sometimes deflate/inflate them. Not good to have one front tyre at 19 and the other at 15 psi.

Over the years I seem to be getting them adjusted so the variation is less, but it still seems to depend on the starting pressure. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

Cheers
David

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