oodnadatta mid-late Feb?
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 01:37
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jnewlife
Hi all,
Is it generally ok (i.e. too hot) to do part of the
Oodnadatta (
coober pedy ->
painted desert -> then south to the flinders) in mid to late Feb? Assuming i'l be taking 5L
water per day, 2 spares tires and an EPIRB? I'll be in an 2002 petrol V6 Prado...
Thanks in advance
j
Reply By: Member - Andrew K (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 06:30
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 06:30
It will be bloody hot but if you can take that then go for it. Make sure you take the usual precautions, particularly with the vehicle. It will be lonely out there. If you go off the main track ie to Lake Eyre make sure to tell someone. Also make sure you run tyres at reduced pressure as I have seen fully inflated tyres completely destroyed on the track from corrugations. Reduced pressure (and speed) they will last for ever.
Don't forget the fly nets. Never leave the broken down vehicle, wait for help.
Now for the controversial bit: Do not use poly air bags on your
suspension. They will not reduce
suspension flex and make the tyres work harder and can reduce life significantly.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:37
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:37
'Now for the controversial bit: Do not use poly air bags on your
suspension. They will not reduce
suspension flex and make the tyres work harder and can reduce life significantly.'
Life of what Andrew K?
Contorversial yes. Yours is just another opinion.
Polyairs or similar are desigbed to help
suspension with load. If you have a light load then you reduce the air pressure of the polyairs and reduce you tyre pressures and drive according to road conditions. I have had no issues with my polyairs and I live in the outback and travel corrugated roads regularly.
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Follow Up By: Member - Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 09:28
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 09:28
Not sure about this so called Poly Air issue. I'm yet to experience any issue with Poly Airs if you follow the instructions and lower pressures to about 6psi when not fully loaded. If loaded add air to keep vehicle level....Not sure what the Life of would be effected???? Agree with Willems comments and yes, I've had Poly Airs for years in several vehicles, work a treat......
Has previously said, it will be very hot with heaps and heaps of flies.....Good Luck
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:30
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:30
Hottest time of the year. You would be looking at shade temps around 45 daily and night temps 30 to 35 which does not make for pleasant
camping. Surface temps can get up to 60 degrees.
Its up to you but we locals try to stay in the shade at this time of the year
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:08
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:08
"we locals"??? Willem, he's talking
Oodnadatta- not downtown
Peterborough !!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 20:18
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 20:18
Here we go again. PITA Signman has to say something. Go back to school and take up
Geography will ya!
Peterborough is 400+km from The
Oodnadatta Track. Temps around these parts are very consistent in a broad range. Whereas
Peterborough might be 2 or 3 degrees cooler "we locals" still try to keep to the shade unless of necessity we have to be out there in summer. 45 degree heat is not uncommon in
Peterborough.
Right at this moment I am about 150km from the Track and it is probably quite wet as the creeks are starting to run here, after a day of intermittent rain. Maybe more will fall during the night.
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Reply By: lifeisgood - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:41
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:41
Personally I would not be comfortable with that amount of
water ration. Especially if you intend to be independent of using other peoples precious supplies.
Since you are not bushwalking you could afford to carry a bit more for all the necessary washing / cooking tasks , radiator back up etc in addition to
drinking water? I would be inclined to double that amount particularily if
bush camping.
IMHO It was hot enough for me (a southerner) in August , a better time to travel those corrugated roads. Dont forget to heed advice from the
Pink roadhouse and this
Forum about lowering tyre pressures and slowing down a bit.
Have fun
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Reply By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:36
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:36
jnewlife,
the way the weather is looking at the moment the
Oodnadatta might be under
water :-) Certainly something to keep in mind if you are considering heading up there next month as any flooding will change conditions considerably.
Toytruck
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:26
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:26
I'm with Willem - potential for very high heat levels is great - and the potential for vehicle breakdown is always there, even thought the roads you mention are all very good in bush terms - If I was to do it, I'd be carrying a lot of
water and would have real communications gear instead of the Epirb - that said, the OOd track has been in very good condition of late - unless the rain changes the equation, its easy going - quite smooth. Re neg mention of the air bags above - phooey ! Re mention also of going out to Lake Eyre - careful - people do die out there in the high summer (no joke).
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Reply By: RobAck - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:33
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:33
I strongly suggest you take a look at the temperature patterns in that part of the world first. It can hit 54C and you can also experience flooding. Yes true as it is the time of year when that part of the world gets most of its rain from the tropics. So be very
well prepared and have at least three days
water and food on board in case. Tyre pressures should be lowered to around 26 psi. Check with Adam Plant at
Oodnadatta. See their website for useful advice as
well.
My recommendation is think again but if you want to bump into some crazy tourists from Europe then they will certainly be there for sure.
Poly Air comment is quite frankly misleading and technically incorrect. We have been using them on several vehicles for over five years with no problems at all. The biggest problem is people don't know how to use them correctly. Firstly pump them up to aournd 30 psi BEFORE loading the vehicle. Then lower the pressure to level the car front to rear and run around 15 psi at the most. Our vehicles average 3200 kgs and it works for us. When unloaded run around 10 psi to prevent them rubbing on
the springs and abrading so leading to punctures. They do not impinge on
suspension travel in any toyota we have fitted them to, or LR Discovery etc etc
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Follow Up By: jnewlife - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:52
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:52
Thanks for all the advice... "crazy tourists from Europe" LOL :) I have just emigrated from the UK! so I guess technically i'm not a tourist (though maybe crazy).
Am spending 6 months touring oz (starting
perth, anticlockwise) so was hoping to see painted dessert but it sounds like it might not be such a great idea, i guess i can still go north to fliders from
adelaide??
Thanks again everyone :)
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Reply By: RobAck - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:16
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:16
If you are planning to visit the
Coober Pedy area, at a reasonable time of the year then book in to Evelyn Downs as
well. It is a working property and
the painted desert they have is
miles beyond what you will experience at
Coober Pedy itself. Definately worth the side trip and a nice spot to stay for a couple of days.
Why not consider doing the trip anti clockwise and time your
Perth departure for around March. Head across the Nullabore via either
Esperance or Kalgoorlie or include both. Then into SA via
Ceduna, along the cost to
Port Lincoln then to
Port Augusta and on to
Coober Pedy that way. You are then
well on your way North and back around to
Perth again
RobA
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:43
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:43
There is a lot of
water being dumped our there right now ... I expect things will be closed for a few weeks at least by the sounds.
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Reply By: Member - Hughesy (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 21:21
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 21:21
J myself and 3 mates went to
William Creek last weekend. The max temp is varying over 15 deg a week, with one day under 30 and a few days latter over 40 (
Roxby Downs). Very weird.
I was surprised at just how many vehicles we passed during our short 520km round trip. The Coaster tour bus dudes (Groovey Grape Tours) are even still running up thru there.
But as was sad we've just had a day of steady showers today with another 2-3 days of it expected. The Ood,
Birdsville and other tracks are closed as I passed the
sign coming home tonight. Might be another week or 2 before it dries up depending on what we are yet to get.
Just make sure you take a little more
water than normal. The stations around there work all year round and you'll often hear the UHF crackle to life if you leave it on scan.
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Follow Up By: jnewlife - Friday, Jan 19, 2007 at 10:17
Friday, Jan 19, 2007 at 10:17
Thanks again for all the advice guys, I will get some weather reports nearer the time and check out Evelyn Downs,
cheers
j
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