Vehicle rigistration in a "non Home state"

Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:31
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Hi folks,

You have shared and helped with some of my worries.... how do you guys on major trips around the block do it ?

Lets suppose that a 3 month trip turns into more than that and you have a vehicle rigistration due in NSW in the middle of May and you were in SA on west of WA.... what do you do LEGALLY.

Can I go to a SA "raodworthy compliance person- sometimes known as the mechanic - with my NSW renewal certificate and get a "pink slip" ( presuming I can get friends to forward the necessary mailed items, which went to my home address, to where-ever I am or will be, and then do the required intra state registration by internet or snail mail.

Legal alternatives only... please...

Regards

SKI'er
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:00

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:00
Come to SA. Book into Caravan Park and stay for a day. Then go on trip and then come back and stay another day or two. Go to rego dept and say that you will be residing permanently in SA and change rego and licence over. Once you have SA rego you can pay for 3,6,9, or 12 months. No Pink or Green slips required. No vehicle inspections here. I have a mate whose LC is registered in WA, his Caravan is registered in Victoria and he lives in Queensland. All perfectly legal.

If you don't want to do that then go to Automobile Assoc in that state, get your roadworthy certificate and mail it off to NSW with your cheque and a forwarding address
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Follow Up By: gordl - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:54

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:54
With reguards to vehicles registered in other states for vehicles garaged in Queensland they must be changed to Queensland registartion after a period of time I think 1month but check with the Queensland Department of transport to make sure.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:28

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:28
Yep...Most in States you have to change your rego over within 3 months of living there permanently. But if you were travelling alot, it would be hard for anyone to police it effectively. In SA it is easy. You call the RTA from anywhere and give them your Credit Card number and a forwarding address and within days you have your new rego. No sweat.....lol

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Follow Up By: Taz & Milka-Queanbeyan - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 23:03

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 23:03
I have heard rumours that you might have to do some serious tap dancing to convince an insurance company in the event of a claim ....

I had my car registered in WA at a mates address whilst I lived in ACT/NSW as it was a bucket load cheaper - then I was informed from 2 different sources that if I had an insurance claim I wouldn't have a leg to stand on so I bit the bullet and did the righty....

Cheers ... Taz
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:22

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:22
Hi Taz & Milka,

See my response to Mite Tan lower down the post.

Best learn tap dancing in the event of in MHO.

Regards

SKI'er
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Reply By: Mike_Tan - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:10

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:10
I am interested in legal advise on this as well. I have just transported the Patrol over from WA to NSW 5 months ago and have been hesistant to change the rego over as the pink and blue slip is a pain in the arse over here. I did change my license over to NSW though.
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:53

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:53
Hi Mike Tan,

I am monitoroing for advice and so picked up your reply/concern.

Allow me to tell a TRUE story.

Prior to my retirement from teaching I taught in a Liverpool/west Sydney school.. great school. On a particular day a member of staff "had" to go into the city for a gev school approved course. It was convenient for him to drive past the school gates for about another 3 minutes to park at the transit rail station and be in the city 25 minutes later.

After the return trip he found his $14,000 agreed valued car was gone (legitimately stolen). The PROBLM was that he was using his bothers address in Qland to register and insure his vehicle from. BET YOU KNOW OF PEOPLE THAT DO THIS type of thing !!!

On day of theft he reported it to to NSW local police and got an incident #. and was advised to leave it for a few hours in case it was recovered from "joy riders"

No good news so...Next day he reported it to his insurer NRM..

I heard half of the conversation (the rest was filled in later) before the chair kicking began.

"We note that you vehicle was stoeln from Sydeny met but it was insured in Q. Can you explain why the vehicle was in *.* Sydney Nsw.

Yes I was down here on business.

Thats fine ... but we will not do a telephone claim loss registration - rather we will send you a snail mail claim forthe loss with this ID number. Please complete it and ATTACH a telehone bill in your name from that address or an electricity bill in your name from that address.

My collegue came clean and told the NR... person that he had been registering the vehicle at his brothers address and doing the same for insurance.

The NR... lady told him "good Morning" we will note be acting on your claim "because you have made fraudulent claims of regitration address in order to gain an advantage ( of premium) and told the collegue that they would include a form advising of his rights at appeal if he so sought fit."

Then the chair kicking began and the loss of a $14,000 vehicle was borne by my coolegue/friend.

BEWARE... the big insuruers know that the non host state registration goes on and that they will take you money until the crunch comes.... then ... as above.

Thats why I say LEGAL. I have got to a stage of my life ( I know) when wealth allows me to aviod the traps...... I was simply seeking "nuts and bolts 'WITHIN LEGAL" ADVICE"".

Regards

SKI'er
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Follow Up By: wado1 - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:53

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:53
I relation to SkI-er's post. I used to live in Sydney had a car registered in WA as it was cheaper however the car was insured in Sydney and had no problems making a claim in a car accident. As long as your honest as to the location of your vechicle to the insuracne company they won't care what state the regiration is in.
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Reply By: Brian B (Brisbane) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:10

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:10
Hi,

Is your intention to eventually return to NSW to live?

IMO why not just pay the rego to NSW and be done with it.

I live in QLD and we have been around Aus once to date and our rego fell due while we were away. I just paid it and kept the vehicle registered in my home state. No hassles etc.

I know a lot of people register in states they don't live in and I have also heard a lot of stories of insurance claims getting knocked back over not being resident in the state the vehicle is registered in. I just can't see the sense in taking the risk but that is just my opinion. I don't think it is worth the risk of maybe saving a few bucks by registering in a state that has cheaper fees than where you reside.

Just my opinion.

Have a good one.
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Reply By: marq - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:25

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:25
If the rego is in first 6 weeks of the trip -
- go to a pink slip place that supports electronic detail transfer (eg kmart)
- during the trip pay for the green slip (other internet or phone)
- a few hours later pay for the rego over the internet or post the payment to RTA
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 06:16

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 06:16
I am also very interested as I am not resident in Australia and intend to purchase a well set up vehicle and leave it 'in storage' at various places around Australia for up to six months at a time over the next three years (I will only be using it during the cooler months).

So, for three years I will have a vehicle in storage for six months (in any State)followed by being on the road for six months (in any State). During this time I will be a non-resident of any State. I may also offer the vehicle to other family members to use on trips to Australia. Anyone suggest a good insurance company ?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 16:31

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 16:31
I reckon as long as you tell the onsurance co what u r doing and where then u should be OK, check with your NZ insurance co and see who their aussie affiliate is?
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:57

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:57
In NSW you can register your vehicle within 3 months of it falling due. We did this last year before heading out on our trip "around the block". My rego was due in May and I registered it in early Februaryl Usual stuff in needed like pink and green slips.

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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 16:40

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 16:40
Good idea Bonz, simple when you think outside the square eh. Never thought of working with my own insurance Co.
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Reply By: lambo - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:19

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:19
Last year I had a similar problem , the NSW RTA advised me they would accept "pink slips" (or the local state equivalent) to renew the rego in NSW. I did this and posted the paperwork off fm the NT, no hassles.

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:33

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:33
SKI'er,

Like Jack, I had the inspection done 3 months before the due date.
The inspection certificate will last up to 28 days. I had my wife pay the rego 2 months prior to the due date.

As far as a blue slip goes it is not a big deal. I had to get one on the 78 Series late last year. When I asked what is the difference between a pink slip and a blue slip the mechanic said that he had to check the VIN and engine number were on the blue slip and that the vehicle in my case was a 78 Series.

As far as what to do about the rego, if you can not get back to NSW to get the inspection done get in touch with the RTA.

Wayne
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Reply By: Ozrover - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:42

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:42
Gerday Ski er,

We have that the same problem! Leaving to go around Oz in late March, rego runs out on the Disco' in mid August!

Asked the nice lady at the RTA, she said "rego it when you get back" I said "WHAT?" No help at all from them.

I've since had better advice and been told to get a roadworthyness certificate from the state that your currently in & do the rego over the Internet, can do, but must allow enough time for the new papers/sticker to reach you before the rego' expires...

Fun isn't it!!

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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:46

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:46
Just be aware that you can only do a rego over the internet in NSW IF the pink slip issuer offers online pink slips. (Green slips are always on line from an hour or so after you pay them.)

If you get the pink slip interstate, you may have to allow yourself time to post in the forms, pink slip and payment, then for the papers to get back to you.

We have always planned our trips to be near the NSW border and headed to Broken Hill, Tweed Heads etc to do it all directly.

Max
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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:19

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:19
Max.
Yep forgot to mention that!!

We are setting up our mail to go to a relo's place, who will forward it to where ever we are currently at, & pay all fees over the internet!

Don't have a lot of other options as we will be spending the next year interstate.

Also have trailer (2), motorcycle (1) & ute rego to worry about while we are away!!

I don't suppose that they accept fax's of pink slips??
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 13:19

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 13:19
Dunno - maybe a phone call to the RTA would be worth while. Their telephone staff seem pretty - all you have to do is hang on till you get to them!

Max
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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 16:40

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 16:40
Register in WA and you are set for live ...
Can't be bothered to even think of having another rego long term ..
have fun
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 17:41

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 17:41
and whle you are at it get a WA license - yu can hold that as wellas interstate license but elwhere you have to hand it in to get a local license
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Reply By: Twintrail(W.A.) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:08

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:08
This all to hard i am going to retire .Hed to ayres rock dig a hole and watch the world go buy.
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Reply By: Member - Lis & Paul (NZ) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:01

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:01
The rego/insurance thing in Oz is just too unreal. We have decided to buy a 4WD in Queensland for our trip - the rego seemed easier than NSW. I still dont know how we are going to legally register it because the official site demands not just proof of ID but proof of residency - utlility bill or similar which as tourists we obviously dont have and nor is the LC going to have a resident garage! However there are lot of backpackers doing this so I assume there is a way to do it - even if we have to register it in a relatives name who is resident.

insurance - I assumed that the insurance wouldnt pay out as we arent resident so basically lying about the address so I thought we would go with the minimum legal insurance and that was all. Anyone know a better way (I would like to insure if I had any way of actually getting a payout if required the veihicle will be about $10k)
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Follow Up By: old mate - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:41

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:41
To get an AUS address, can you open a bank account in your name with a relatives address? If so, bingo, your first statement will give you an address you can use for registration purposes. then you will have an address to allow you to get a QLD licence. No yearly inspection etc. If you own the vehicle more than a year and the rego comes due, just pay it on line and get the relos to forward the label on to you where ever you are in oz.

One thing for everyone who plays "the I'll register it interstate at a mates or relo's house" game to consider. If you have an accident where some one is injured and your CTP mob find out that your car is garaged in another state becuse you are trying to beat the system then you may find out you are not CTP insured and in deep bleep as well as all the legal dramas that go with it.

I've moved between SA and QLD a number of times in the last 6 years and played the game. Not anymore. the extra rego is worth it.

If you are travelling around as I did in a troopy on SA plates, spent the better part of 18 months in QLD, CGU insurance had no problem with accident theft etc as ithe vehicle was covered all over oz. Explained that to them and they were ok with it.

If you can beat them, do it but it may bite you on the ass. Is the saving worth it?
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Follow Up By: Member - Lis & Paul (NZ) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:47

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:47
I can actually open a bank a/c in NZ thru my NZ bank (which is of course Oz owned) - I guess I can get them to send a statement immediately when we pick up the cashcards etc on arrival - and that should work ! Thanks its been bugging me!
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Follow Up By: Member - Lis & Paul (NZ) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:49

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:49
Hmm no edit function - what I meant to say I can open a bank a/c in Oz from NZ thru my NZ bank....
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Reply By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:56

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:56
Hi Everbody,

Thanks to the near 500 that viwed the post and especially to the people who gave advice.

This is what we have learned and/or been advised.

1. In NSW yyou can get the " your rego is due for nenewal letter - that normally comes through the post- issued to you at an RTA office 3 months (to the day) early.... and then go through the usual mmechanic checked... CTP ins and then pay the rego for the following year ( 3 months) early.

2. BUT WHAT IF YOUR REGO FALL DUE OUTIDE OF THE 3 MONTH WINDOW ?

a. delay uour trip

b. go and if you can get a copy of your NSW -your rego is due for nenewal letter- you can visit an interstae licenced roadworthy accreditor and get a road worthy certificate. and post it off (you cannot email the inter state roadworthy cerificate - NB You will have to arrange the CTP part ofd it to be electronically transmitted from lets say NRMA to RTA and hope that all the ends join up. If so the NSW RTA will post your rego and sticker to anywhere on request.

3. If you choose to re- register from a state that doesn't have annual roadworthy inspections - there are accredited inspection places, NSW RTA will accept one of these once but not on an annual basis for evermore

I hope we have it right in our eyes. We are just going to go and thry to re-register in SA or WA as tourists not as permanent place of residents.

Hope this helps. Thanks for your advice... We are off air and goin.

Regards
SKI'er
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