New HiLux has got me puzzled......

Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:01
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Today I drove a new Hilux diesel 4x4. It belongs to the University mob who are doing some research work here

1. It's all round ground clearance for a 4by seems very low compared to my GQ

2. It does not have Free Wheeling Hubs and by all accounts it does not have constant all wheel drive.

So what is this? Is it back to the future 1970's style?

It is nice to drive but it won't last on rough station tracks as its too low and will get many dints!

Cheers
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Reply By: Wayne-o - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:08

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:08
yeah theyre ok,
i assume it has auto hubs like the patrol
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:48

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:48
Yeah but at least the Patrol has a manual override tool to lock hubs if there is a problem
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:27

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:27
AFAIK, creature comforts and driveability are often the enemy of serious 4wd design.
The 100 series without a solid front axle is a case in point.
Look good, drive well and cost a fortune. But serious 4wd ?
The Rangie used to be a great compromise. Not sure about the modern ones, but I do know their price...ouch !
Don't worry Willem, just keep filling the old girl up and smiling. The new ones might be nice for the uni guys, but there's no way they're going to follow in many of your tracks.
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Follow Up By: Wayne-o - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:30

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:30
rangie sport with twin turbo V8 diesel around 190k starting price
I wander how much it cost to polish out a scrub scratch!!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:53

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:53
No Footy I wasn't getting clucky about a new 4by(anyway the only new car I can afford is a Matchbox car).

This GQ is me last 4by.........................maybe........:-D
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:30

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:30
Maybe it was a 2WD low to the ground and no front hubs...

LOL... :{-)
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:40

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:40
Nah...it had two gear levers...lol ....and as low as a 2wd!
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Follow Up By: Voxson - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:45

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:45
are you sure one wasnt the handbrake? lol
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:06

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:06
Geez Voxson, just looked at your new rig pics.

Which bank did ya rob? LOL

Cheers

PS what have you done to the rear seat to get the fridge sitting flat/secure?
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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 17:39

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 17:39
VOXON i have an everkool and i remove the rear seat in the patrol allows the fridge to face north south,wont the engle fit north south...leaves a seat for rear passenger if required.
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Follow Up By: Voxson - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 23:52

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 23:52
Hi Rick...
You mean which bank has robbed me... lol...
The rear seats are removed and a flat board on two pieces of 75mm pine are bolted to the anchor points on the floor where the seat bolts came from...
Leaves a bit of room for things under the fridge...

Hi pepper2,,,
Whe i go away i always have two fridges on that board and a table tucks neatly away behind them against the cargo barrier...

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:02

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:02
Voxson

If your going to do

do it rigth

Looks good

Richard
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Follow Up By: Voxson - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:15

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:15
Cheers Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 06:54

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 06:54
Good to get your money back from the bank for some worthwhile projects Voxson. Looks great.
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Follow Up By: Voxson - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 07:47

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 07:47
Hi John,,
I was just looking at your profile,,,, yours is quite a nice setup..
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 08:37

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 08:37
Mate, this isn't supposed to be a site for mutual admiration. ;-) Have heard that other are but we won't go there.......... Yours looks a serious contender in the beauty stakes as does the Moggs machine
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Follow Up By: Voxson - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:06

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:06
Hey,,, Richard started it... lol...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 14:05

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 14:05
Hey Vox.. any word on who did the conversion?
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 14:50

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 14:50
John,

Checking out your pics, would love to hear the story of the 'desert wheel alignment' and if it worked.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 15:53

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 15:53
Matt, the short story is that we came across this Paj that had rolled 10kms South of Moomba on the Strz Track where it had rained the night before. Very slippery spot as we saw a Troopy nearly spin that came in to look. Just a localised rain.

The Paj had lots its right rear spring after roll 3 and the shocker broke. I helped the guy by jacking it up and getting the spring back in getting two tyres inflated and sort of drivable. The back axle had shifted sideways enough to get the rear shaft rubbing on the exhaust. It ended up easier to pull the exhaust sideways to allow him to proceed crab fashion actually but we had a go. It had no front or rear screen and the couple were all shook up you may say. We watered and fed em too before proceeding.

The newlyweds of three days marriage are now friends and reckon they owe us some accommodation when we pass through Echuca. They now have a babe and of course are made of stern stuff and still married.

We escorted them to the Moomba security gate and spent time there with them and we were all told their 4by would be off to Adelaide next morning by truck. They would be off to Adelaide by that afternoons plane at 3.30. Great Support from Santos actually. Thanks Santos, actually we told them we had shares so appreciated the support for our new young friends
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 17:05

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 17:05
John,

A good story and one that will no doubt be repeated in years to come when you get togehter.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:02

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:02
I think I am just thankful they were uninjured.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:31

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:31
I am assuming it is simular to the tritons at work. Yep they are low. They have auto locking hubs. Strangely enough the ride is like riding a buckingcamel and in is own way is even worse than a cart sprung 75 cruiser
BTW my missus previos model 04 hilux was in the driveway alongside my 80 and it Killed the 80 for clearence even with 15x9.5 tyres!!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:45

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:45
So the hubs are free until you shift the gear lever to H4?

Does this activiate the hubs electronically?

It didn't work on the 1980's Pajeros as when you reversed the bloody hubs unlocked themselves.

Maybe it is a different system

The once unbreakable HiLux is now a pussycat
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 01:07

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 01:07
yea you chuck it into 4wd and the hubs lock (spposdly)
Dont know if you saw the post but my missus told me hers auto locked so we took it down the powerlines track (mundaring) and it couldnt get past go. After much head scratching and manuel reading I flicked a tab on the after market wheels ............... revealing perfectly operating MANUEL hubs.
Stuff getting a hick whose dad owns a brewry I got one with a Turbo diesal Hilux which had never been off the bitumen!!
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:15

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:15
You got yourself a 'hick'? Might wanna keep that to yaself...

VTIC

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Reply By: troopyman - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:49

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:49
Everytime i get in my 75 series troopy i think i am back in the seventies . I wouldnt own a 4x4 that didnt have quarter pane windows .
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:02

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:02
And the quarter pane is the 75 series 'hidden key' too. The two coathanger method has got me out of the phoo before.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:13

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:13
Hi Willem
They may have the disconnect diff system, the same as the Surfs use.
Ray
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:10

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:10
Some Hiluxes have Automatic Disconnecting Differential which is vacuum operated, and inside it looks like this:

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:32

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:32
Dam there smart..

I looked everywhere to find how they were doing it

Good one Phil
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Follow Up By: Stu050 - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 23:10

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 23:10
Pajeros use the same sort of thing for the front diff.
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Reply By: Bros 1 - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:00

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:00
Willem,
You are winding them up again. LOL.
Cheers,
Bros.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:04

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:04
Bros, you only get wind up if the ADD is engaged....................... ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 06:57

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 06:57
thats right Phil, you know who knows how to wind up readers? LOl There are lots with ADD in schools today they say.
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Reply By: cambelt - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 23:34

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 23:34
They dont have any means for disconecting them , the front diff drives all the time just like a 70,s hilux or very old cruiser . very poor way of doing it .
Dave
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