Connie Sue and north to Kimberley

Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:30
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Am currently on the way to Flinders Ranges and Gammon to see them in the wet

Then its off to the Bight before running inland along the Connie Sue and further north to the Kimberley mid Feb-mid March

Have never travelled Connie Sue and further to the north and would like your opinion of likely challenges and considerations for this part of the trip.

Am travelling with partner as lone vehicle. Have good knowledge of desert and outback driving generally but not of this area

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Will check in again in a few days

So far excellent trip. Hail storm, dust storm, rained in on the Murray....

Best regards Chris and Dianne
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 13:36

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 13:36
Chris

You wont get into the Flinders Ranges till the end of the week as all roads are closed.

Go to my website below, click on 4x4 and then go to The Big Trip andthen scroll down till you reach an account of the Connie Sue.

Basically it is an easy run but up to 100km north from Rawlinna the track is very hard to find and you have to keep your eyes peeled for Len Beadells windrow of 50 years ago.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:18

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:18
Update on Flinders roads 6pm Monday.

Quorn to Hawker is open with care and speed restrictions
Orroroo to Hawker is closed for weeks
Hawker to Wilpena is closed
Hawker to Leigh Creek is open with care and speed restrictions.

Access to Parachilna and Blinman from Hawker/Leigh Creek road OK to 4x4.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:51

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:51
HI Willem
Thanks for advice... BUT... Smiles... we got in due to comms failure in park staff. Arrived on 25th told all areas were open. So when we saw the road closed signs we ignored them - figured that the road staff had yet to collect them. Drove over some pretty interesting sections of road. Heaps of silt; long strectches of wet soft silt; 50-100cm washouts; much of Brachina road seriously rearranged - rock crawling the order of the day followed by good stretches above the water line. Good water - beautiful water- but rapidly returning to the normal water holes.
Camped there 4 days - left yesterday. Rangers found us and advised of the folly - allowed to stay 'since we were already in'. (At that point - the only park tourists outside Wilpena. Roads will be graded in the coming days/weeks.
Went out via Blinman Parachilna - all crossings have been graded.

Thanks for your comments further on in this thread too

best regards

Chris
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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:20

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:20
Agree with Willam , it is a bit hard to follow at the south end . You'll find our trip note's on this site in treks . Just a word of warning ,If you come up to Rawlinna from Cocklebiddy , take your time . We were told it would take us about an hour or so to get there . 4 hours later , we arrived . The start is not to bad , then it brakes down with lots of low limestone ridges that will tear tyres apart if your not carfull . Cheers Errol
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:54

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:54
Thanks Errol
Have just looked at my GPS which confirms the spider web of tracks in the area - and I know it will be worse on the ground. Fortunately for us we have lots of time on our side.

I'll let you know more in a month or so.

Best regards

Chris
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:49

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:49
Although maps show a reasonable track from Cocklebiddy up to Rawlinna, it is only a rough station track & permission should be gained before you start. There was no problem when we asked a few years ago. Further north the track gets a little lost with some Aboriginal/mining roads but by keeping an eye on KM's & distance you should have no problems.
The track is not particually sandy (no need to let tyres right down) & north of the Neale Junction the going is fairly easy. Not many people travel the route from what we saw so go extra prepared.
I think an transit permit is still required for the top part of the track into Warburton.
Don't follow the "ancient water course" marked on some Hema maps near Lake Nyanga.......... The track has long since gone & we got 8 staked tyres in that section amounst the group.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:13

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:13
Craig,

The Cocklebiddy-Rawlinna road is public access and permission need not be sought. Your info is out of date....sorry...:-D

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:35

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:35
Willem

Thats news to me .. we do not have PAR's in this state as fare as I now (now JS) when we traveled that country as told by the locals the only road south was from Haig (not the wiskey)
Site Link

Thinks may have changed I'm still waiting for Michell to compleat the travel JOURNAL for us to read ...LOL..
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:35

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:35
Cool it worked :-)
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:51

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 00:51
Richard

I can't remember where I got my info from but have travelled the road past Arubirry Stn. Its graded up to the station and after that it deteriorates as one drives to Rawlinna. There were no signs to the contrary that the road was private.

Can check up when I get home some time this week.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:02

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:02
Rawlinna to Cocklebiddy is public access - the info on Hema maps is wrong. We phoned up Arubiddy and asked them - they said public access.

But Craig is also correct - he was talking about the Neale Junction to Warburton section of the Connie Sue. Theres a section tehre that you get permission via the DIA website, from memory. But I doubt that too many people would bother.

We've travelled these roads over the past 2 years. I wouldn't be doing them in Feb/March - too hot for me. The Cocklebiddy Rawlinna road can be a maze, but you'll end up in the right place eventually. The Connie Sue, north of Neale junction was bady corrugated in 2005.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 17:52

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 17:52
Yes it's been a few years since I passed through Rawlinna so more than likely access conditions have changed. From the Belgair station end it was definately signposted private access & after speaking with the owners he explained the route through his property. Their main issue was keeping people out when it rained to avoid track damage.
Cheers Craig...............
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:58

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:58
Thanks for a great insight into your thinking in the earlier discussion - seems like a good thing to do to drop in on 'Dave' at least to discover some of the history and personalities of the place as well.

Great to have time on your side to do it slowly - at last

Best regards

Chris
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Reply By: the nugget - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 23:38

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 23:38
Depends on how far into Kimberleys you are going, did the kimberleys last year up to Kalumburu. I think the roads were closed from about Feb on until about June. They did have a good wet season. You can contact Kalumburu and Drysdale station, they have websites where you can check for road conditions.

But mid Feb-March, the weather is very unstable and you could be stuck for weeks if not months.
Happy & safe 4wdriving,
Nugget
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:01

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:01
Thanks Nugget,

We'll go as far as we can and then wait if that's required - (not months of course)
Will let you know how things go
Best regards

Chris
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Reply By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 13:05

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 13:05
Getting on the Connie Sue at Rawlinna is a PITA. If you want a track file which also includes Neale Breakaways, just south of Neale junction, then just MM with your email. I also have a track file up through Aubiddy? and Belgair stations which I did solo 18 months ago. Track up starts at Cocklebiddy and heads north bring you out on the railway line about 20kms east of Rawlinna. Met both owners who were happy to talk and give permissions (retrospectively) etc. Dave, who runs Belgair, is 80+ and a real gentleman! All tracks are easy with caution being taken. Not many souls out there so take good comms. Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:05

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:05
Finally cracked the code on PITA. Geez I was slow yesterday!!

Thanks for advice - Will check out trek notes closer to the date if that's OK

Best regards

Chris (Now in Pt Augusta and heading south for the coming heat wave next weekend)
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