ACCC happy with fuel prices again LMAO!

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for all those that "BELIEVE" in this toothless tiger, give yourself an upper cut and make it hurt.

ACCC happy with petrol prices again
January 24, 2007 - 12:29PM

The consumer watchdog has backed away from its stoush with oil companies, saying it is satisfied petrol prices have fallen back to competitive levels.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) last week threatened to publicly shame the companies after finding Australian petrol prices were an average seven cents a litre above their overseas benchmark.

ACCC chairman Graeme Samuel stopped short of alleging anti-competitive behaviour but said prices were between five and 10 cents a litre higher than current unleaded prices in Singapore.

The Singapore bowser price is based on the price of Tapis crude oil - the benchmark for Australia - which has fallen steadily in recent months.

Mr Samuel said he was satisfied with the response of the oil companies.

"Over the past week there has been a significant fall in petrol prices so that they now reflect more closely the Singapore international benchmark," he said.

"We expect that average petrol prices will continue to move in line with this benchmark."

Mr Samuel said evidence showed that consumers in the five major metropolitan markets - Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide - continued to take advantage of the petrol price cycle. Prices generally peak on Thursdays and trough on Tuesdays.

"Data on petrol sales volumes shows that on average across a price cycle, around 60 per cent of petrol is sold at prices below the average of the price cycle, which suggests consumers are taking advantage of the cycle," Mr Samuel said.

Price differences between the city and the bush remained a concern, with significantly lower competition in regional areas still a major factor, he said.

Meanwhile, the ACCC issued its first quarterly price monitoring report on ethanol blended petrol, finding it was selling for almost three cents a litre below the price of unleaded.

The federal government ordered the commission to begin monitoring the price of unleaded with a 10 per cent blend of ethanol (E10) last year.

There were concerns retailers had failed to drop the price of the alternative fuel, which is more expensive to produce but is subsidised by the government by 38 cents a litre.

The ACCC's monitoring of 14 service stations selling E10 found prices were competitive at an average 2.9 cents per litre below the cost of regular unleaded.

Deputy Prime Minister and Transport Minister Mark Vaile, who has pushed hard for a bigger uptake of E10, welcomed the ACCC's report.

"Monitoring the price of E10 will continue to be a powerful incentive for fuel companies to compete and offer their customers better value," he said.

"It will increase the use of E10 as a cheap, green alternative to regular unleaded petrol."

The number of service stations selling E10 had grown from 270 last June to around 475, Mr Vaile said.
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Reply By: flappa - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 13:46

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 13:46
Ahhh , the ACCC's balls are about as real as the Easter Bunny and Santa.
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Reply By: Robnicko - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 13:52

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 13:52
Truckster,
West texas Crude jumped by just over 1 dollar overnight. Let's see how quickly it's reflected at the pump.
The problem is that the gov't (regardless of who is in power) will screw it's own people. We are the highest taxed nation in the world. I have a company car so the cruiser sits at home Mon to Fri but when I look at my Company car fuel statements I was amazed at how much we are being ripped off.
Remember last year when unleaded hit $1.46? My statements for that period which are through Caltex tell me that the company I work for were only paying 96cpl........
I also have a friend that works at Shell........he says the same. It's all profiteering, government greed through GSt/excise and the odd service station that is screwing us all over. I have lots of info on this matter as I am on the road lots for work. I am amazed at how the price increases that happen in the city can not happen in the country, and vice versa.
I could give a perfect example of a service station in Melbourne who is profiteering by putting his prices up at 2:30pm and then reducing them at 11pm almost daily in order to get the afternoon peak hour traffic. A couple of cents would not matter but this guy is raising LPG from 43.9 to 64.9 and then back. Same for ULP and Diesel. It is one of the major players however I beleive it is a franchise (greedy one at that)

One, that I will mention because of thier honesty is BP Northbound on the hume highway just past Cooper Street. They are consistently cheaper than most and when others raise thier prices they do not. I questioned it once and was told that when petrol is at the cheapest end of the cycle prior to raising prices they are still making a 4-5cpl profit. An increase by say 15cpl then makes a 20cpl profit.
This operator told me that they can keep thier prices low because although they are a BP they are an independent franchise and do not get the mid afternoon fax, call or SMS telling them to up the price.

I have written the same email to the ACCC but they must have been busy at the dentist getting thier teeth cleaned..................

Rob
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Reply By: garrycol - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 14:14

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 14:14
Fuel is unregulated in Australia - fuel companies can charge what they like as long as there is someone who is willing to pay their rip off prices - is not the role of the ACCC to challenge the fuel companies on their prices - hence the ACCC has time and again essentially be told to FO by the fuel companies - the role of the ACCC is to ensure that there is fair competition and there has not been collusion in the setting of the rip off price - now this is the area where the public should be concerned as the ACCC has constantly found the fuel companies are NOT colluding (some local agents have been found to be) when we can all see by the movement of the prices that there must be some collusion.

Unfortunately we live an an unregulated market economy where organisations like the ACCC does not have the power to do anything. The price we pay for fuel is not based on the cost of the raw ingredients and costs of production plus a markup - it is based simply on what the market will pay - that is what you and I are prepared to pay for fuel - we have shown we are prepared to pay up to $1.50 a litre as evidenced by fuel costs last year so there is no real drive for the fuel companies to reduce the cost - they know we will still pay.

Maybe we need to look at price regulation (then the ACCC does have the power) but there are issues with that approach or look at the amount of taxes we pay on fuel but as we have one of the lowest level of taxes on fuel in the world I doubt the govt would ever consider a reduction.

Looks like the only approach is to keep on whinging and bitchin - that might shame the fuel companies into doing the right thinbg cause no one else cares.

Garry
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Reply By: ozdragon - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 14:25

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 14:25
The price of ul fuel here in Bunbury WA has dropped by 1c since the accc threatened the action. Yesterday diesel dropped by 3c.u/l now 115.9 and diesel 122.5

Peter
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Reply By: ADM - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 15:39

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 15:39
They are satisfied petrol prices .

What about diesel, how can 15 cents per litre different.

Unfortunately the oil companies have us by the short and curlies.
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 15:40

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 15:40
Think what you like but last Sunday I paid 99.9 bowser price and used a 10 shopping docket for a final price of 89.9c/ltr - now I havent done that for a while. Took a touch over 120 litres and I felt good.

I know trucky, I've been condition to think this is good. I can clearly remember prices in the 50/60 cent range. This means it must have occurred sometime close to yesterday because my memory aint that good.

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 16:13

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 16:13
Ditto - on the Nepean Hwy in Melbourne I saw petrol selling for as low as 103.9c/L when in the days before the ACCC threat it was in the mid teens. About a 10c/L drop.

I reckon the threat DID have an impact on prices in Melbourne.
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Reply By: longJohn - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 16:13

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 16:13
Just do what I do. Use less fuel. I changed jobs to somewhere alot closer and now my weekly fuel bill has dropped from $70/week to $20/week. That will stick it up them.
Or use a much smaller car if you cant and drive long distances. Or a bike. Its the ultimate get back at these rip off bastards as it doesnt matter how much they rip you off per litre, if you use bugger all, they make bugger all.

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Follow Up By: Peter - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 21:48

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 21:48
Servo just down the road raised his prices for ULP this morning by 13 cents per litre, then this afternoon back down 13 cents. A common occurrence with this servo. Does it every Tuesday normally. I refuse to purchase anything from the place. Won't even stop in for bread or milk, rather travel an extra 2 km and buy from the local shop. Unfortunately they seem to still get a fair bit of business even though there are 2 independents within 1 km that are normally 4-5 cents a litre cheaper
Peter
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