Terrano changing revs.
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 21:54
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nasaman
The vehicle is an imported 1990 Terrano
It has 140,000 on the clock.
Has never really towed any more than a small trailer rarely.
It is a Turbo 2.7 diesel Engine TD27033604T 4X4 4 door 3 speed automatic wagon.
It usually doesn’t go into top gear until about 75 Ks/Hour
The vehicle seems to change revs a lot as if it is slipping back to second.
Sometimes I am sitting on 100Ks at 2500 revs
The next thing I am sitting on 100Ks at 3000 revs.
Sometimes It will run at 100Ks at 2300 revs
You can hear the engine change revs but sometimes the rev counter changes accordingly and mysteriously sometimes you hear like the engine change revs but the rev counter doesn’t move. I have always though it was getting to top a bit on the slow side like revving out a while in second.
Now it is like you are doing an even 100ks on a smooth road and suddenly sounds like engine revs up but rev counter doesn’t indicate this.
I really don’t know anything about these turbo charges I don’t even know how to really tell if the turbo is working or not. I paid over $100 for a manual and when I looked to that all it said was if turbo charger fails – replace. LOL.
I have checked transmission fluid and if any thing have slightly overfilled to no avail.
Any ideas would be welcome. nasa@netbay.com.au
Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:49
Thursday, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:49
Left of field...
Another possibility if it is elecronically controlled injection is a bad connection to the engine temperature sensor (this is not usually the one connected to the dash temp guage). If this connection goes open or high resistance due to dirt/corrosion then the ECU senses the engine is cold, and may send a message to the transmission controller to not allow the transmission into overdrive. The transmission then gets twitchy with the good/bad/good contact being made. It will also disable the torque converter lockup, possibly giving rise to the three rpm's you get for 100 km/h. (2300 locked and OD, 2500 unlocked and OD, and 3000 unlocked and third.).
Are you SURE it is only a three speed auto (four speed would not have been uncommon, even in 1990), if not then this would DEFINITELY indicate a bad connection to the temp sender or bad sender, being one of the few items of failure that will cause this problem.
Are there any
check engine lights or codes coming from the computer that you can read or have had read?
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Follow Up By: nasaman - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 14:13
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 14:13
Hi GaryInOz,
Thanks for the response,
You also hit the nail on the head with looking towards the torque converter lockup.
I appreciate the good advice.
You also mentioned the engine temperature sensor and you will see by the posts immediately above this one that this is the direction I will be heading.
You also said (this is not usually the one connected to the dash temp gauge).
I have had a brief look and I wonder if you have any further idea where this sensor is located.
My great $100 manual doesn’t show any of this, and my Japanese is no better now than it was last week.
Thanks to all ……Nasa.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:18
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:18
Sorry, but I don't know exactly where it is, but it would be near the thermostat cover and waterpump area (actually on the thermostat housing?)
I'm guessing you would see two sensors, one for the temp guage and one for the ECU, again, a guess that the ECU one will have two wires coming out of it whereas the temp guage will only have one.
I don't own a Terrano, but my Kia Sportage model also has similar issues related to similar problems.
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Reply By: nasaman - Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 22:46
Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 22:46
Thanks so far guys.
You have given me a new clue.
What I did do was cruise along at about a hundred and slammed her back into second just for the experience.
Well that taught me one thing you will know about it if they drop back to second so that counts that out it is not that severe.
I also noticed that when cruising along at about 80 you drop the foot down and immediately the rev counter goes up to about 3000 revs but the speed just slowly begins to clime.
I checked the A/T power switch I have always run this in the neutral position.
The cleaning fairy had not changed it.
I really don’t think the torque converter is locking up properly.
I have come to believe that is properly where the problem is.
I will have another play tomorrow.
Thanks for the clues.
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