Genuine parts or not ?
Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:15
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Guys/Gals,
The water pump in my '91 130,000km GQ TD42 is making an obvious 'knocking' noise. The mechanic said the water pump bearing is going. To have this replaced with a genuine Nissan pump and change the four main water hoses is going to cost $650 !! He says he does not like to use non-genuine parts as they do not last as long...
The car does about 10-12,000km a year - maybe 20% off road - mostly beach and track stuff.
Anyone got any opinions on fitting a non-genuine water pump ? What is the likely price difference ?
Thanks in advance.
Reply By: Truckster - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:27
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:27
$650? what planet?
I got one not long ago (Mth or 2) for under $300! Genuine Nissan! I actually have my old one here as a spare, could work something out with you if your interested. its 100% good... Long story but replaced it anyway. (chasing overheating problem, but wasnt water pump!)
Mail me and remind me, I'll call my contact at Nissan tomorrow morning for yer.
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I agree with the stick with Genuine.. The original one lasted since 1991, so the next one should last 12 yrs or so... Good value I think.
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Follow Up By: GPA - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:48
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:48
Thanks for the promt reply Truckster,
I'm sure the price includes the cost of the four water hoses, 4l of coolant and the labour. I too figured the other one had done 12 years so the next should, but was a bit taken aback by the quote.
Cheers...
PS - any ideas what it costs to get the rust done on the rear window sills - I have the standard GQ rust problem !
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:54
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 21:54
$650.. where are you ?? Middle of nowhere with 1 bloke to go to ??
I got a new Radiator, coolant, testing and installation the lot for $400.....
yes new window frames... Again, new 1s will last you 12+ years again, but the new ones are different style for draining muck out of, compared tothe original ones, so should last longer.
Ive done both of
mine, they take less than 10 mins to do....
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Reply By: Member - diamond - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 22:24
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 22:24
im not realy sure about nissan water pumps but i know from experiece fitting ball joints tie rod ends and most other car parts even brake pads. got 70000ks from a set of original festiva brake pads thought that was ok so i bought ford genuine part because i know bendix probly wont last that long and geez look what happens 40000 later time for new ones.if you have a part that lasts 100000-20000 from new and have to buy new genuine why would they sell you the same thing thats why its called spare parts and are able to charge you big $$$$$.i sell tyres as
well and you cant tell me they cant make a tyre to last 100000ks of course they can but why dont they no good for the company is it.there atre several types of after market water pumps some good some crud.chineese ones not much chop. jap ones good pretty sure they are gmb ones we use .from the amout of ks you do find another mechanic one who will use non genuine bitslooking foward to
easter at jamieson
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Reply By: nugget - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 22:49
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2003 at 22:49
I replaced the water pump on my GQ at 300000km with a non genuine item made in Japan. Unfortunately cannot say how long it will last as it has only done 15000km. From memory it was under $200. Do it yourself, its not a difficult job.
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Reply By: Member - David now Outnabout - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:10
Wednesday, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:10
Like truckster says the first one lasted 12 years so stick with that. The only thing to question is the price quoted so it may pay to try another Nissan dealer or a reputable workshop but using the genuine part.
Once had a bloke blow up a turbo diesel engine by overheating it. Turned out to be an "identical made in the same factory" or so they all say, part, only problem was that the impeller was substantially smaller and wasn't pumping the water.
You gotta whatch out on things like brakes too. Not much point fitting pads that last for ever if they are so damn hard that they chew out the rotors quickly. I would rather replace pads any day.
All is not what it seems always....sometimes you need to scratch the surface to look at the big picture.We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Reply By: Truckster - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:03
Wednesday, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:03
All OEM Nissan.
OEM Water Pump: $ 100ish + gst
Hoses: $ 27.98 lower 32.42 + gst
Clutch Fan: $ 296 + gst
All up inc GST:-> $500.59
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Reply By: desert - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2003 at 19:51
Wednesday, Apr 02, 2003 at 19:51
Water pumps on GQ's are a known problem area. I tend to agree with your mechanic that the genuine one is the more reliable pump and after all what are you saving on a cheap pump, $100? You could do the job yourself, however, if not that way inclined then I believe it was a fair and honest quote. If you consider $50 for coolant, $60 for hoses, $150 for a couple of hours work with a guantee, that leaves 390 bucks for the Nissan pump, which is about the correct retail price, I would think?
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Follow Up By: GPA - Thursday, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:54
Thursday, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:54
Thanks desert,
I am starting to lean that way. Had a good look at what's involved and reckon it would take me the better part of a Saturday morning... I don't mind the guy making a profit, but at first glance it seemed steep - I didn't figure the pump to be ~ $300.
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