Travelling with dogs

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:48
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Hi,
I'd like to hear from someone who has travelled around Australia with dogs. I want to start planning a trip but my partner thinks we would have to leave our 2 dogs behind in order for us to see the country properly (eg, National Parks, etc).

Has anyone successfully travelled the country with dogs? If so I'd love to hear from you, I have a lot of questions to ask!
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Reply By: madfisher - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:54

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:54
Sorry I agree with your parterner. You will miss out on all the best bits, plus be treated like lepers at caravans parks etc.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:58

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:58
Lepers, really. We've travelled with our dogs for several years, all over Australia, our border collie is everyone's friend (great with kids as he'll chase a ball all day) and a retreaver (she's everyones favourite dog). People are actually drawn to our mutts and we get to meet lots more people.

Have you travelled extensivelly with dogs?
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Reply By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:04

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:04
Wednesday,
I used to take my best mate (Australian Cattle Dog) everywhere and I mean everywhere.........these days, he stays at home as you simply cannot take dogs into many many areas.

You can of course take them but you will be limited. I would leave your pals at a good motel or you will certainly miss a lot of what you want to see.

Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:06

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:06
I should add,
there are a lot of guides to travelling this country with dogs, grab one and have a read they are invaluable including, accommodation that accepts dogs etc etc.

Toytruck
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Reply By: Barnesy - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:08

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:08
Nobody can stop you taking your dogs but how many caravan parks specify "no pets"? If you're travelling around and the only place to stay the night won't allow pets what are your options then?The same with national parks. You wouldn't even be able to go to a NP for a nice picnic under a tree.

Save yourself the trouble and find a good kennel or someone to look after them while you are away.

Barnesy
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Reply By: Wednesday - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:34

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:34
Thanks for your feedback guys. I do have a few books on travelling with dogs including "Bush Camping with Dogs" which I bought from this website. I know there are a few websites around that list dog boarders around the country, so I thought if we planned our trip properly we could book boarding for them in the same area as the National Parks we want to visit and do it that way. Has anyone travelled the whole way around the coast? If so, how long would you need to take to see it properly?
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:31

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:31
Wednesday,
how long would you need ot see it ALL............about 300 years:-) I know people that have been around more than a dozen times and still have not seen enough. Seriously, you need to do you research, pick out the good spots and visit them. You will not see it all in one trip, unless you have a very long time to spend doing it.

Toytruck

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Follow Up By: HowdyDoody - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:03

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:03
Friends of ours did it in 13 months (no dogs) and still talk about the places they will see on their next trip as they did not have the time on their first lap. THEN there's the central Australia trip...
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:43

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:43
In the past we always travelled with our dogs but have now stopped because of all the restrictions mentioned above. Not only can't you visit a NP but you can't transit through one. We had this happen a couple of years ago and got pulled up by a ranger - we honestly had not nor were going to stop within but he forced us to turn around and leave otherwise a big fine. Cost us several hundred km to circumnavigate.

The other issue is that in many parts of SA and WA they scatter baits and you would never want to experience seeing your dog die that way.

So another one of the joys in life has gone.

alastair
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Follow Up By: HowdyDoody - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:04

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:04
My understanding is that if you are passing through a national park on a sealed road then the dog is fine as long as it is inside the car. No stopping for lunch or anything though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:10

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:10
HowdyDoody,
I think it comes down to the rangers attitude. I also was asked to take the shortest route from a NP. I had travelled from South Oz back across to Eastern NSW and was passing through, yes not stopping, a NP when I was stopped. The dog was in the back and although I explained that I was on my way through only I was asked to leave or get fined. The guys actuall got quite agitated and started shouting abuse.

On the other hand, when I lived in Central Oz, NP guys used to let the dog go so long as he was on a leash aqnd under control.

Toytruck
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Follow Up By: HowdyDoody - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:12

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:12
Sounds like the kind of ranger you ring the parks office about - especially if he started shouting at you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:18

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:18
I did hear afterwards from some of the locals that the guy was a bit of a nut but at the time...he was wearing the uniform and I just decided to go on my merry way.

I know I am digressing form the topic a little but I feel that there are some NP Rangers that are practical and then there are some that are just greeny protester types that would rather have electrified razor fences around the whole bloody lot.

Toytruck
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Follow Up By: HowdyDoody - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:22

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:22
Best ranger we ever got was one that turned up out of the blue. We had been camping for three nights and not seen a soul then the cruiser with parks signage turned up. Couldn't believe it. It seems we had picked his favourite lunch spot to camp in. He joined us for lunch and was full of great stories about the area. We had another two week left for our trip and totally changed plans based on his advise about where to go. Some of the best spots I've ever been too and still go there a couple of times a year (the kind of spot you never tell even your best mate about). I wish more rangers had that attitude. He actually inspired respect in us for what Parks rangers do (the good ones that is).
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:44

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:44
Hi Toytruck,
You are spot on about some rangers. One came into where I worked and like most things, started talking about National Parks etc. I could tell by his tone of voice that he fell into the greeny type, and having his way, would make all parks out of bounds.

For me it was time to go fishing, so I asked why the National Parks People were removing the Old Date Palms around Dalhousie Springs, even though they have been there for over 100 years, well before white man made it into station country. His reply was that they were not natural to the area and should be removed.

My reply was if that is the case, why don't they remove the Old Dalhousie ruins (even though I would never want this ever done), as they were not natural to the area then. He then stated that they were of historical value, got the bleep s up and just walked off.

It is strange how they say that some things are of historic value, while the palms were not.

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Follow Up By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 14:18

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 14:18
HowdyDoody,
The ranger was very explicit - no dogs in a NP any way any time. The only exception he admitted was if the road was a main through road and fenced both sides.
alastair
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:17

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:17
My little Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is now dead :( so I no longer have a dog and I rarely venture into NPs anyway but about three years ago I went to a significant (natural) tourist attraction in Victoria which happens to be situated in an NP and has a pay camping area adjoining which I decided to stay in for the one night. As I had my dog with me I talked to one of the rangers (there were quite a few around) and said I realised dogs were not permitted but I had a Cav. in the vehicle who would be kept on a lead and was it OK - he said "Dog, what dog? I haven't seen a dog" :) As always she was no trouble to anyone and a joy to most. I consider dogs and NPs are an area of common sense - you don't allow a hunting dog to run wild but a Poodle on a lead in a camping area regularly frequented by humans will make no difference whatsoever.

I haven't met a lot of rangers - they seem mainly to frequent the more popular areas but the ones I have met have always been pleasant and helpful.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Steve63 - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:17

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:17
To many places bait now. Half the time they are just airial drops. Do your mate a favour and put him in the Doggy Lodge.

Steve
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Reply By: Hairy - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:39

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 13:39
These days I think you would find a dog a real inconvenience.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 14:50

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 14:50
Spent 6 months last year touring and took our kids (dogs) with us. The only problem area we found was the Great Ocean Road as you have about a 300k stretch without any dog friendly caravan parks. There are web sites and books that list the various caravan parks that take dogs and we never found that we were relegated to the back paddock because our mates were with us.

As far as the bates go, if you keep your dogs on a leash you will not have any problems - lets face it this is how they should be handled when out in the public.

Fair enough, you will not be able to venture into national parks but there is still so much to see without venturing into them. Besides, what you don't see this time round has not been missed, it has been left for the next time.

If you really love your pets, take them and enjoy it - I know ours enjoyed it. There is no way I could have put them in a prison (kennel) while we went of without them.

Bob
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:19

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:19
>There is no way I could have put them in a prison (kennel)
>while we went of without them.

You and me both.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:22

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:22
Dogs only ever want 2 things from you - food and a bit of love - ours get heaps.

Bob
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:31

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 15:31
Spot on Bob :)

The paradox always amused me: when I was packing to go bush I would manage to fill a 4WD to the roof with all the things I needed to take from my itemised and detailed three A4 page camping list - all my dog needed was her water bowl, some food and a brush for her coat and me as a companion - I miss my little dog :)

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:02

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:02
We lost one of ours not long after we returned - Pete is now under the lemon tree.

We just thank our lucky stars that he made it home - couldn't bear to think of him buried in some foreign state and not being able to go out and say hello to him every now and then.

They really become part of you.

Wednesday - just get out there and take ya mate and enjoy yourselves. Many places (Kalbarri for example) have facilities to look after your dog while you go into the parks for the day.

Bob Cheers

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:34

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:34
Travelling with dogs

My little fellow goes everywhere with me ,but then he is very small , Don't know how big yours is , but hey if you really need to go to NPs then there are plenty of boarding out places like this www.pawsclawsandbeaks.com.au/ all over the country,My little Dusty spent a day there just recently when I had to go to a Doc. I still chuckle to myself about the time the guard on the gate at the Gladstone Smelter would'nt let him in while I unloaded the truck load of Scaffold, poor little bugger had to be tied up at the gate house while he watched me drive away, 2 weeks later , same destination, so I tied him up in the sleeper bunk and drew the curtains , went in unloaded and out and no one knew,What people don't know they don't worry about. to begin with he is too small to be running around a smelter , tried to tell the bloke that but ....

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Reply By: furph - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 17:35

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 17:35
One of the NP's on the nsw north coast. We had been camping for a couple of days, with our dog in the back of the truck, when inevitably, the ranger turned up.
Bit of a yarn, we had put our money in the honour system envelope so ok there, when he says, "you have a dog in your truck"
Yep, says me, and what about that brown and white dog with half rose ears wandering around the camp area?
His response: "Its a dingo, they are native to here so we allow them to roam freely!"
Has anyone heard such utter rubbish?
furph
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Reply By: Sam from Weipa Auto Electrics - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:24

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:24
I always take my dog everywhere but she behaves herself better than most people I know. then it does help knowing most of the rangers I would be more worried about my dog eating a bait than a ranger catching you. My dog always comes for a swim when we are at place's like the elliot falls etc but she has to be better behaved than ever. If she strays out of my sight at all theres hell to pay (Not that ever happens)
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Reply By: Member - David A (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:35

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:35
We are planning a trip to the centre this year and have been using "Camping Guide to the Northern Territory" as a planning tool. (Bought it through the exploroz shop). This book also lists campsites where you can and can't have dogs. Examples in the centre that are OK include Devil's Marbles, Chambers Pillar, Old Andado, Owen Springs Reserve, Ayers Rock Campground, Wallace Rockhole, Kings Canyon (both the resort and kings creek). Having said that, we are leaving our two (cocker spaniel and labbie) at home with a house-sitter, as boarding fees for 6 weeks would be $1200. www.housecarers.com if you're interested.

Cheers
David
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Reply By: flower - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 22:44

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 22:44
Hi,
We always take our two little dogs with us when we go travelling.If you go off season, most caravan parks let you stay with your pets. There are less kids, and less crowds to contend with, which suits us older travellers. We love our dogs, and don`t want to leave them behind.The cost of boarding is very expensive,so take them with you.We have found that the local vet will look after your dog in most towns, if you want to do some sight seeing, anyway the best of luck.Its true you can`t t ake them in the national parks, but there`s lots of other lovely places to see around the country.Give it a go....
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Reply By: Member - Jason S (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 23:49

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 23:49
I can tell you that there is no park in Bathurst that accepts dogs.

Make that ONE only park in Bathurst. I am not saying big4.

Met a couple of Grey Nomads, they had to get out of town due to their terrior.

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