Are Toyota fitting Hyclones?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:15
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Mikee5 (QLD)
I found this piece of kit, fitted as standard, in my air intake system. Looks like a plastic Hyclone to me.!MPG:13!
Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:18
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:18
yep seen one on an underground ute. Are you sure it is standard?
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Follow Up By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:28
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:28
I am absolutely certain it is standard. It is made of the same plastic as the air intake and is spot heat welded into the pipe. You can see the welds at about 2 and 8 o'clock in the
pic.
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:27
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:27
Come on Mike,
What sort of toyota and how old, or are you saying that it is a new car straight of the showroom floor?
You are aware that exploreoz only lets you post a joke on Fridays? lol
Regards Boo Boo
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Follow Up By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:30
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:30
It is a 2003 'Standard' 100 Series. I was so suprised to see the little beastie I had to photograph it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:42
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:42
Mike
I reckon that someone may have been good with a plastic welder, although I have not seen a hyclone or similar in plastic .
Did you buy it private or a dealer, it would be interesting to find out its history.
Regards Boo Boo
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Reply By: joc45 - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:39
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:39
See if you can get a second one to fit in there - should make the old girl go even better!
Gerry
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Reply By: Ted (Cairns) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:44
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:44
Part of the centrifugal dust pre-filtering system?
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:53
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:53
Exactly. That's what my Donaldson precleaner looks like.
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 18:47
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 18:47
Yep
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:02
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:02
Mike,
They are real and standard and act as a pre cleaner. What they do is to swirl the air and any water that has entered the intake pipe will be pushed to the out side of the tube and will then go into a sump further along the plastic pipe.
The air will then go into the air cleaner where the air enters the air box.The air gets spun around again. This again will push all the heavy bits that got past the first pre cleaner to the out side of the air box and then fall to the bottom of the air box and collect in the sump. If you look under the bottom of the air box you will see a small tin can shape sump. Un clip this and all the bugs and dust will be contained here.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:05
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:05
Thanks Wayne,
It was fun for a while, though. LOL
Mike.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 19:02
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 19:02
Wayne is correct,the Troopy has the same angles vanes in the top of the "Snorkle Head" for want of a better way to describe it.
You can see them if you duck your head under and look up.
It does precisely what Wayne describes and does it very
well, lots of dust and bugs in my sump when out bush and almost nothing of size in the "Paper Element"
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Reply By: Big Woody - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:51
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:51
I found exactly the same thing at the front of the air box behind the headlight when I removed the intake system to fit the Safari
snorkel. This was on my 1990 model 80 Series 1HZ Landcruiser.
I was so surprised that I posted on the same topic.
So does this mean Toyota have been fitting "Hiclones" for 17 years???
Brett
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:55
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 17:55
Yep, my 80 series had one (1994)
Cheers
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Follow Up By: ross - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:00
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:00
Toyota call it their Cyclonic filtering system and is just there to sort out the heavier contaminants as others have pointed out.
Hiclones have some magical quality that muddles up the molecules in the air and makes combustion more effiicent.
Apparently,forcing them through a carb,down a manifold and through the intake valve doesnt muddle them enough;)
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Reply By: Carl & Kaz - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 18:27
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 18:27
Yep, I removed
mine after I found it in my 100s, and my fuel economy plummeted. Fitted it straight back in after a couple of tanks and it was back to normal. I've since fitted 3 more and now I drain my auxillary tank once a week and sell it to my neighbour!!
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Follow Up By: Taz & Milka-Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 21:57
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 21:57
Thats priceless.
Thanks for the laugh !
Cheers ... Taz
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 00:17
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 00:17
lol......the best I've heard for a while
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 18:39
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 18:39
Guys......now you know where Hiclone got the idea fron....heres something to try.....cut the fan off the long tube, leave about an inch of it still on the fan.
Drill a hole in the centre of the fan slightly bigger than the centre bolt that holds the filter together.....put the fan up in the hole at the top of the aircleaner....you now have a toyota hiclone.
Get a pack of 6's and open the first with the nearest door jam :)
I love my Toyota
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 22:33
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 22:33
[bashing head against concrete wall]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 15:03
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 15:03
Go on Gary, Admit it you love these posts. LOL :-))
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 14:57
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 14:57
Guess what?
There was a big one of these cyclone filter devices in my 76' model FJ40, so Toyota have had "Hiclones" since the 70's.
Wouldn't surprise me if the original 3 speed as found on the
Snowy River project had the same air filter as the FJ40!!
That must be why the FJ40 got 16mpg otherwise I'd never have afforded to run it!!
Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 17:59
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 17:59
Must have been standard in alot of the toyota's as my 2.8D has the exact thng behind the air filter inside the metal casing. Steve M
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Reply By: djm67 - Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 00:13
Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 00:13
My 1995 2.6l petrol Holden Rodeo also has one fitted as standard right at the start of the intake tubing.
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Reply By: hwycruzr - Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:05
Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:05
Hi Mike,
Toyota have been fitting these for years, i've mostly seen them on 75# & 79# utes but have noticed on hiluxes and others as
well. They ususally fit them in place of a
snorkel, or better put it's the end cap of where your
snorkel would go. the 100# i think have kind of a split system where any water entering this hiclone would be pressurised and forced out somehow. otherwise a
snorkel would be as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike when your headlights are floating somewhere around the water line of a river.
Cheers :)
Dave.
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