Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:32
The problem is all associated with the cars duty cycle.
We did a lot of work on this when I worked with Kenworth, and the trouble with manufacturers service intervals, is that they are for average use.
MB monitor the duty cycle, and you can actually see on their diesel models, the due milage change as the duty cycle change. Around town using a fully synthetic oil, the ML270 would tell you a service was due around 20,000 kms. We left
Adelaide for
Perth with a meter reading of 12,000 kms, showing service due at 21,000 kms. By the time we got to
Perth it went out to 23,000 kms and by the time we got
home it was up to nearly 25,000. Once we started metro running it quickly bought it back.
This and our studies with KW, clearly showed that long distance running will mean that using a straight interval, that the vehicle will be over serviced, and metro running could indicate not soon enough.
The only way to do this correctly, is to
test the oil and water, and this really is the best way to establish what you are about.
Toyota themselves appear to also be confused. If you go into the Europe site, you will see that on your car, they service them in the UK every 10,000
miles. Same engine etc, and I suspect a lower duty cycle. I think here Toyota ten d to tin their butt. On the discontinued Prado, oil changes according to Toyota should be done evry 5000 kms.
In conclusion it is the duty cycle that should determine the changing of liquids, that is if you want to get maximum value for the dollar. However in saying that, it costs extra to do the oil sampling, coolent you can do yourself. However with coolent
test strips, do not buy in bulk, as they have a limited shelf life.
Also cutting the corners with poorer quality oils, coolents and filters is a dumb way to go.
Regards
Col
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Follow Up By: FZJ 80 - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 20:33
Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 20:33
Col,
Bmw use a similar system that uses a base mileage and multiple inputs, primarily fuel consumption as consumption is higher round town than highway,journey time,calendar time and an oil quality probe to decide on interval. In most cases now the diesels use a base value of 15000km and petrols 30000-40000km. The main reason for the long intervals is the environmental targets in europe. There are now lifetime gear oils in both autos and manuals,diffs and lifetime coolant.
All euro manufacturers have targets to meet and any imported vehicles have too as
well.
Regards
Greg
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:35
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:35
Hi Col,
Can you please tell me how to
test the coolent myself.
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