Drop down fridge contraption????
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Member - Roachie (SA)
Okay, my earlier question about the front-opening fridge has just about been answered to my satisfaction....I won't be proceeding with that idea I don't think!!!
However, I'm now trying to find out if anyone knows where I can get a fridge "holder" from of a type a saw several years ago. It was not actually a "slide" as such, but rather a scissor-type gizmo which saw the fridge come out from the tray of the ute it was on and then drop down about a foot (300mm) or so. This enabled the more vertically challenged to be able to gain access to the contents without having to climb a ladder or milk crate.
Does anybody know what I'm talking about. It is NOT the slide that comes out then tilts the fridge down on an angle, although that may end up being a suitable alternative I suppose......
Thanks again as usual for all responses.
Roachie
Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:15
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:15
Roachie,
Just caught up with your post.
Have a look at the Vitrifrigo "Ocean Steel" 2 drawer fridges. They have two slide out drawers of 90 litres each. They are sold in Australia by CAMEC Pty Ltd.
The website is www.vitrifrigo.com/gb/
home.htm
The site is in frames so I can't give you a link direct to the page but follow the Motorhomes Link and then Ocean Steel.
Worth a look.
Muddy
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:53
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:53
Roachie, Waeco make 12v fridge drawers, and Engel make an upright fridge.
Problem with uprights is they are inefficient in regards to the amount of stuff you can pack in.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 01:39
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 01:39
shiza i designed a setup like that last year, but too expensive to make and sell, now you tell me some other bugger has already done it !!!
Ah
well, i'll probably make a few for personal use at some stage.
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Follow Up By: DiesAl - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:08
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:08
Gday Bradley, I'm currently in the planning stage of doing this myself for the back of my ute. You wouldn't by any chance have some basic scratchings of your design that may be perused by fellow 4wdrivers would you ? grovel grovel ;)
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:46
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:46
For Bradley & DiesAl - See my site, the drawings for the fridge hinge are at the end of the drawer plans.
4wdstuff.davejones.com.au
Candy Canvas in Sth Australia put it into production a couple of years after I made the first prototype. It's not how I would have done it but if you don't tinker in the shed it's not at all bad.
I did it in late 2002 or early 2003 and 4wd Australia gave the idea #10 in the Top Ten Products for 2005.
As far as I know I did it first, but I had no interest or inclination in commercialising it so I put it out on the net for anyone who wanted to build/copy/develop the idea. Many short wives think I'm a legend...
Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:10
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:10
Thanks Dave, yeah ive seen a bit of your handywork getting around, pity you didnt go for it yourself as the potential market is huge.
diesal - roachies description gives it away, think upside down scissor lift for a clue :-) Look in the boot of the average car for a better clue :-)
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Follow Up By: DiesAl - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:43
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:43
Thanks Dave, that's some quality engineering. I was looking at trying to make a slide that when fully extended it would allow the fridge to drop down to about tray height and stay level. I've been to your site before you've got some good idea's on there.
Bradley - yes I was thinking along the scissor lift path with possibly using gas struts to assist in the lifting action.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:22
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:22
A lot of work to complicate something that is simple and works
well is not necessarily the best solution. The scissor lift path would be an interesting engineering challenge but particularly with a tailgate the tailgate limits how far it can drop - as would the length of the struts in anything without a tailgate.
A fridge sitting level at tailgate height is still not easy to get stuff in and out of unless you are fairly tall.
A tilted fridge is at an advantage because you can see into the whole fridge at the same time, rather than having to crane to see the stuff closest to you in the level one.
A $4 cake rake mounted vertically and cable tied in as a divider which divides the Engel basket into two equal halves stops everything sliding to the front of the fridge when it's on an angle. You can still use the small basket on top.
We use one side for cryovac'd meat and the basket, and the other side for milk, juice, water, dad's medicinal fluids etc. And fill the gaps with what ever we need to.
It takes about 20 mins to make a hinge for your existing slide and another 20 to mount it. 40mins of trial and a couple of cans and you might save yourself a lot of work.
Dave
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Reply By: Member - John - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:17
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:17
Roachie, try this web page, they have a swing out, drop down fridge/stove. Maybe what you are looking for?
John
Site Link
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:18
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:18
Roachie,
Craig D has got one of those tilting fridge slides. Hopefully he'll get on line today.
They can be obtained from Candy Canvas of
Tintinara and I think they fit up to the usual fridge slide, and cost about $140 for the extra bit. I've seen Craig's, and it works
well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:46
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:46
Yep, that's correct Phil - I use the tilt mecahnism sold by Candy Canvas - works very
well (especially now the wife can actually reach into the fridge and get me a beer for a change!).
Bill you would have seen this mechanism in my camper we we went to
Woomera together (?).
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:02
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:02
Is there a photo of the drop down fridge slide anywhere? Candy Canvas apparently don't seem to think that putting a
pic on the website is a good idea.
Some businesses succeed in spite of themselves!
Thanks
Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:09
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:09
Jack, send me a MM with your email and I'll send a couple of pics your way.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:50
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:50
Phil at Candy Canvas originally only had 50 made. I don't know if it was an idea he continued with. He sort of thought that investing in too many would be a bad idea cos it was considered likely that a fridge slide maker would jump on the idea. Whether he ever ran to a second batch or even needed to yet I have no idea.
Don't know that anyone else has yet, though the Engel rep loves my original. I ran into him at a local display. He'd been asked by many people where they came from and never knew the answer.
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:40
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:40
Roachie I know the problem and I'm looking for the same thing. one of the camper mobs makes one (I,m trying to find out which one) I saw it at a show, it was on a camper on a F250 & the camper slid out the back of the tray & then turned side ways & then opened up. The kitchen was in one side & storage in the other side of a steel canopy. Did not like the camper, but did notice the fridge slid out & then down about 300mm all done on springs & gas struts (Small & neat)
I'm going to the Kembla grange (Sth NSW) 4x4 camping show tomorrow & hopefully I will find it, I will let you know
Regards Vince
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:43
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:43
Vincent,
Drop in at the site office at 11am and meet up with the other Explore Oz group that are meeting there for the show
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:48
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:48
Vincent,
Sorry I just realised that it is Thursday not Friday. DOH
That means I have to come to work again tomorrow and not have a long weekend. We are meeting on Saturday not Friday
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:00
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:00
The camper you are refering too Vince is the Adventure camper range, made in
Adelaide, and yes they do make a swing out and down type fridge mount.
Not sure if they sell them though, might be a made just for there campers.
Cheers Pesty
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Reply By: DiesAl - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:16
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:16
Roachie, let us know if you find anything, I've been trying to find one of these for the back of my ute but came up zilch, so I'm going to try and knock one up myself. If it works out and doesn't fall apart on the Cape Trip this year I'll post plans up, unless anyone knows where to find some already ?
Cheers
Al
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Reply By: Rod W - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:35
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:35
A further deviation to this and is something I have been thinking about having a go at making is; the ability to place the fridge hard against the sidewall (whilst travelling) and then when required move it out and around the rear door pillar (if you know what I mean), thus eliminating that little bit of useless space between the fridge and wall and providing better access to the fridge.
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:28
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:28
A possibility has just crossed my mind... something like the pivoting arms for TV's etc.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 15:43
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 15:43
Rod,
Careful mate.
That little bit of (useless) space allows for air circulation all fridges require to operate effectively and efficiently.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:15
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:15
Rod, easy enough to do, just mount the fridge slide to curved "half moon" tracks with rollers and put a locking device in for the stowed position. Same set-up as pilots seats in most jets. Only prob is you have to move whatever is now sitting in the extra space each time you want to roll it out.
cheers Brad.
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Reply By: Time - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:05
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:05
I think this is the site you are looking for, look under Courier and follow your nose
4wdstuff.davejones.com.au/
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Reply By: tuck 01 - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:10
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:10
Roachie
My mate has a lifted 80 series and a stumpy wife.
He has taken a bit of 50mm square section that fits inside his tow hitch, cut and welded a dogleg in it to drop it down a bit to the right height, and mounted a small platform to the top of it to stand on.
Low enough to step up onto and stand there to access the fridge.
It is stored in the back of his truck and takes nothing to slip it in so she can fetch him a can as soon as they stop, before she starts setting up the
camp.
He claims that he has never forgotten to remove it before driving off.
Tuck
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Reply By: JR - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 16:23
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 16:23
Roachie,
As a lover of overkill, I d suggest a look at a Refrigeration research (Liemack) DTV
Massive cooling capacity, Ive had a normal opening one for around seven years now and despite its heavy cable requirement use it works great.
Runs a 240v comp and inverter.
Need to mortgage something to afford it though.
Cheers
JR
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Reply By: RustyHelen - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:54
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:54
Don't know whether this will help but there is a guy in Victoria, member of Pajero club, that has set up his own small business making speciality items and also reselling other stuff. I can't for the life of me think of his company name except it is 4WD ?????. Bet that helps....
I reckon a couple of years ago he talked about making one of these items for his own use and just maybe he is making them for sale now.
He is usually at Wandin 4WD (this weekend) but apart from that maybe a post on the Paj club website would find him.
Rusty
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 22:48
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 22:48
Roachie,
This is one of those things that has been in the back of my mind for years.
My first thought about it was that I could maybe adapt one of those auxilary outboard motor brakets. You know the ones that swing out and down to drop the aux in the water. They are designed so that the board the motor is mounted to always remains verticle. The old ones had springs on them to assist the lift, but they may have gas struts on them now.
The problems my mind never got past was how to mount the fridge to it and how to mount it in the car. If you can come up with answers to those two let me know 'cause I would like to make it work. So would the missus.
Duncs
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