Coromal or Goldstream or ???

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 20:45
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We have a young family and am looking for a comfortable offroad pop top camper trailer we are currently considering the Goldstream offroad campers or the Coromal Pioneer Sillouette (offroad) pop top campers. We have also considered the more traditional camper trailers such as OBrien etc, but they seem like nothing more than a tent on wheels.
Has anyone got any experience with either of these brands?
We want to use this for most of our holidays as the kids grow up we want something that will last if looked after, and will do a mixture of on road and some off road (But not extreme off road).
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Reply By: Jimbo - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:02

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:02
Buy the Trading Post and have a look at the resale on both of these. It is about the same as a Jayco and they (Coromal or Goldstream) cost a bomb more when new.

Buggered if I could see the extra "value" in either of these, so we bought a Jayco Eagle Outback. Not an issue (other than a few minor warranty things) in 13 months and a lot of use. We only sold it to move to a pop top caravan, Jayco again.

Good camping with whatever you buy,

Jim.
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:27

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:27
Don't know either of them, but read this thread on Coromal. Seems that the manufacturer won't cover off road use with warranty, even if it is called off road.
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Glad you say 'not extreme off road' as most of these types of trailers are not designed for real off road use. Most should probably more accurately be called 'formed dirt road' trailers.
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Follow Up By: amc - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:54

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:54
You are right about the warranty got a copy of it, and they can get out of it by putting exclusions in it such as and I quote 'travelling over pot holed surfaces may amount to misuse or driver neglect'
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Reply By: Member - Andy Q (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:30

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:30
G'day amc,

Unfortunately I can not comment on the Coromal but I have looked at the Goldstream off road series. We are in the market for another off road camper/caravan, we have decided on getting a pop-top and at the moment the Goldstream looks the better option. The build quality is superior to the Jayco Off Road we have at the moment, for instance, the cupboards and selving are made of 5 ply and not Jaycos 3 ply, suspension is definately a better option. The Jayco has served us well and with the improvements we've made is even better it's just time for something different!

andy
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Follow Up By: rolande- Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:31

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:31
G'Day Andy,

Goldstream guys used to work for Jayco, left when they thought they could do it better...... they were right.

The extra $$$$ spent on a Goldstream will pay itself back many times over with the better quality. After this is a range of manufacturers, Jayco bottom of the list.

The one downside of course is that all that extra work adds up to extra weight. As an example, a 16'6" Coromal Pioneer has a tare around 1450kg. Put a similar Goldstream next to it and it weighs 1850kg

Regards

Rolande
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Reply By: Ken - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:42

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:42
Hi amc,

Have a reall good look at all of the recognised brands , take somone who has a van if its is your first leap into things. Things to consider I reckon are:- corner jacks, drop down type are the only ones to have. hubs and bearings parallel types [ie both inner and outer same size ] chassis, is it full tube or folded c section; c section = flex = popped cupboards rattles then falls to bits. If you are loooking for a bit off road use [none are anywhere near as robust as your 4x4] ask about a 2nd cladding layer under the aluminium to strengthen the frame. Cupboard latches, look for positive locking robust units not crappy snap catches. Wind one up and see how hard it is for you or your wife to do it. What do you get besides the van,at no extra, hoses jack wheel brace. What sort of an awning does it have wind out or bag. Try wrestling with a bag awning first. Can you go and see them being made. So many questions...
I looked at all these things and had a very open mind when starting to look. In then end we went for a Goldstream because all the things we though were important were there. They are a bit more expensive but you get what you pay for. Secondhand prices are only relevant if you are buying secondhand but if you think they are it is important you compare vans of the same age and features. You won't find many Goldstreams under 4 years old for sale and even then I bet you they won't be cheaper than other brands of the same age and specification.
If you are looking for something that will last it won't be cheap to purchase but cheap to purchase isn't always cheap to own. Good luck with the search.
Ken
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Follow Up By: amc - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:47

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:47
Thanks for your advice, very comprehensive, we want make sure we research the market well before we make our final decision, this being our first van.
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Reply By: tdf - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:45

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:45
we have corromal 440 magnum off road been all over the place no problems very strong/heavy chassis much better than the tent on wheels type in our opinion,quicker to set up than erecting tent ,bedding and organising fire etc.but each of us is different,you need to get what suits your needs,,,one thing i found out corrimal unable to supply duplicate keys if you lose yours need to use locksmith ouch...one other thing the only way air can escape when you fill the water tank is through a very small hole in the top of the tank, this quickly gets covered/sealed with mud and prevents you filling the tank fully,so you think you have say 55litres but you may have much less as the water backs up the inlet pipe leading you astray.have now modified mine by putting a plastic fuel filter on top of tank to let lots of air in but keep dust out of water tank.

the van tows perfectly at any speed you are capable of,it weighs approx 1100kg empty and has a heavy tow ball weight,dont know how heavy but im a big bloke and i cant move it one inch.
good luck with your choice
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Follow Up By: tdf - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:54

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:54
sorry forgot something,my corromal got hard to wind up the roof,found the steel cables that winch the roof up run over nylon pulleys the steel wire cuts the nylon to peicesreplaced the nylon pulleys with steel no further problems cost approx $500 to have someone do the work. dont know about other brands.
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Reply By: tdf - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:57

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:57
see post above 42360
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Reply By: fatboy - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:53

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:53
Hi Amc, My Dad bought a frontier offroad van and found it to be an extremely versatile unit , does not pop up but the rear section of floor winds down to the ground . Set up time without exterior canvas [which they had custom made] is less than 30 seconds. Never once had a problem with dust ingress and was regularly towed on dirt roads etc. Suspension was Alco tortion bar and road extremely well and Dad used his td hilux to pull it with ease. Unit was also airconditioned, Price was about 37000 dollars brand new.
Hope this helps
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Reply By: Member - Brian (WA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:26

Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:26
Hi amc. We got a Goldstream last year.Have only got a couple trips in so far.
We got a goldstream because when I asked there warrenty ( if you can believe
salesman ) His reply what it says Off Road. Time will tell. Jayco looked flimsy to me. and Coromal well as said don't even pull off the site of the road. It tows
well and is comfy, does not take long to set up for over night stops. So far it is
all we expected.
Brian
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Follow Up By: amc - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 21:27

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 21:27
Brian,

What is the Goldstream model that you ended up buying? i.e. Storm, Sovereign, Star Wing??
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Reply By: Member - John R (NSW) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 05:32

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 05:32
Gidday,

We had the same dilemma. We checked out the Goldstream and Coromal. At the time the Coromal seemed better built (both internally and externally) and had standard features, such as independent suspension which were extra on the Goldstream. You won't go wrong with either unit, but we settled on the Coromal after much deliberation.

We only had it for a little over a year (I severely injured myself in an accident at home and was laid up for a long time. The injury makes it difficult for me to set up and pack away the camper). During our period of ownership we had no warranty issues at all and the camper met our expectations.

The only problem I had was the water tank drain plug holder unscrewed from the tank with the plug. A good cleanup and some quality sealer and it was as good as new.

We sold it because my mobility is now less than 100% (as mentioned above) and we also decided to get a pop top van. We have no regrets and would buy another one.
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Follow Up By: Flux - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:53

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:53
Hi Amc,

We had a similar dilemma and spent a lot of time at the shows going thru sooo many manufactures vans until we worked out what we wanted. We were ready to buy, and almost bought a new Coromal PS391, but came across John's (Hi John!) that he was selling due to his injury, in a close to new condition.

We've now covered about 5000km with it and extremely happy. So far nothing too rough but the trick seems to be to just take the rougher stuff slowly and it will walk over it.

Nothing has broken except we had troubles with the water hand pump, and I decided it was time to upgrade to a 12v pump with a pressure switch, and a mains style tap. This makes the hassle of getting water out of the tank so much easier.

As far as towing, we tow with a 17 y/o Patrol which is a 4.2 TD. It handles the weight well and with polyairs in the back, the van sits well. As mentioned above, the ball weight is heavy. On mine it is 136kg when I've got a bit of gear in the large front boot. The van would be approx 1300kg with what we carry. Once you are moving its quite easy to forget the van is behind you because it tows like a dream. Braking feels good and we use a Tekonsha Prodogy, allowing us to stop and feel like 1 big unit, rather than the feel of one slowing down the other.

Setup time is pretty good and the more you do it, the quicker you become at it. John had all the good accessories already, so it had a roll out awning, and a full annex to suit. For a quick overnight stop we can be setup in 5 minutes. If the weather if foul, add about 10 minutes extra to setup the bag awnings above the beds and push out kitchen. The awning would be all of 1 minute and the full annex probably about 10 minutes extra.

Extra pieces I think are important are a good ratchet style pneumatic jockey wheel to move the van. As its fairly heavy, its hard to move unless you are on flat solid ground. Leveler ramps are almost always required when bush camping, and a combination of the ratchet wheel and the ramps and you're set anywhere.

Amc, I guess this would be our experience with the Coromals so far, but I would strongly suggest to really look hard at a camping show on exactly what you want, talk to the people there, crawl all over and under it, open everything that opens and shuts, and this will help you decide. Once you do, go for it :)

Regards,

Flux
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 10:43

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 10:43
Hi Flux!
I'm glad you're having a good time with it. I'm still off work with that injury (16 mths) but hope to be back in April/May if I can pass the medical....... :-)
Our van was supposed to be ready early Feb, but we're still waiting, waiting, waiting..

Regards.
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Follow Up By: Flux - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 11:10

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 11:10
John thats a lot of waiting on both accounts!

I hope all the waiting pays off for you soon and you get your new van and the pass to go back to work.

Regards,
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Reply By: Member - Robert A (QLD) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 06:32

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 06:32
Hi.

We looked at all camper trailer, we settled on the Jayco Eagle Outback.
My sister and brother in law had a Goldstream and after one trip to the Kimberly's it was falling apart. They have since sold it.

After looking at them all, they are all pretty much the same.
Sorry cant be of more help. As I think it will come down to personal preference.

Good luck.

Rob
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:03

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:03
Hi amc,

Take a look at the Windsor Rapid. I had one of these, its built strong, stood up to some pretty rugged off-road travel and was extremely comfortable. I regretfully sold it, as at the end of the day any van taken off-road is simply too big for where I was going and I downsized to a camper trailer.

Cheers

Captain
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Reply By: Member - Rotord - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:59

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:59
The Coldstream wheel track is 3 inches narrower than the Coromal . Doesn't sound much but it gets the track of the trailer a lot closer to the track of your tow vehicle . In puncture country you can look after your trailer tyres much better and it will handle sand and mud better . I bought a Jayco on value grounds and because I am handy with tools ; if something breaks or needs beafing up I will fix it .
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Reply By: Johnnotoo - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:45

Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:45
We went through your dilemma and now have a Goldstream off road LTD. Our reasons were, independent suspension which I see as a must, aluminium cladding as opposed to Coromal's fibreglass. Our thinking was that ally is easier to repair if dinged, whereas fibreglass more difficult. Goldstream on the whole more robust construction.
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Reply By: amc - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 21:45

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 21:45
For those interested I have been looking at both the Coromal and Goldstream here are the benefits of each that I have found:

Coromal.

Best looking poptop around
Bench heights better than the others
Slide out kitchen gives wider interior space
Very nicely finished on the inside & out
Has most things included as standard

Goldstream

More options
Independant suspension option on goldstream is best I have seen for these types of vans
Can get it with a proper wind out awning
2 year warranty instead of 12 months
More plastic windows
Slightly lighter in weight (probably due to aluminium instead of fibreglass)

Anyone else care to add their own advantages/disadvantages
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 00:05

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 00:05
We saw the slide out kitchen as a major disadvantage. Could see gaps therefore dust would have to be able to get thru... that's our un-tested view! Otherwise the Coromal looked great with similar interior finish to the Goldstream. Nice the way the travelling door doubles as a table. Have since read a couple stories of issues with the one-piece fiberglass roof, which I thought was a nice feature. We bought a Goldstream mostly due to our perception of the slide-out kitchen issue, and as a 'show special' it had battery pack, windout awning and bagged bed flys thrown in.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 19:07

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 19:07
amc. we got a soverign, we liked the layout, and the couple of trips we have done
has worked for us.there are only two of us.(three if the dog comes).as we go bush
am in the process getting an extra water tank fitted.we have a solor power setup.
dont do any cooking inside use a camp over,cobb or coleman gas stove outside.
cheers brian
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Reply By: Nifty1 - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 19:26

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 19:26
This is a bit of a low-quality reply, I guess, but we looked at Coromal and Goldstream at a couple of caravan shows and ended up buying another brand poptop. However, we have since seen the O'Brien camper in use, a family with 3 kids from 3 to about 8, and a Foldaboat with sails and motor, and I was impressed. Not the most luxurious or most beautiful thing I have ever seen, but rugged and practical and they take it anywhere with never a worry about things breaking and falling off.
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