Rotten dirty Tourists behaving badly
Submitted: Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:54
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the nugget
A few days ago whilst working outside, Bassendean (
Perth), a Winnebago pulled up opposite by the park. A few minutes later a terrible odour wafted across the road. It was a septic smell, anyhow the Winny took off and I looked across and you could see this liquid around the storm water drain, I went across and it was sewage content. Jumped into the POOTROL and chased him down the road, flashed lights at him but he just kept on going. Got his rego number, it was QLD plates (I would dearly love to display rego number on the
forum), went to the Shire gave details and they came out confirmed raw sewage and they have passed his rego onto the police, the council said that they will go for a prosecution if they can catch up with him.
Soon it will be time to travel north for the winter sojourns, and it brings to mind the amount of rubbish being discarded along the remote roads and campsites, in a lot of cases it is 4Wdrivers as the areas are remote and not suitable for conventional vehicles. Most of us are enviromentally friendly and do the right thing we have our rubish bag that is attached to the spare wheel, (they are only $45 plus depending on how elaborate you want it), and what we take in we carry out, but it is that bleep minority "don't care" attitude that in some cases has lead to the banning of
bush camping, closure of some
camp sites and Station owners locking their gates. Nothing worse than pulling into a
bush campsite and there are those filthy disposable nappies etc.
There are a lot of travellers that visit the exploreoz site and we must thank David and his team for providing a fantastic
forum, so if any of the minotiy read this hopefully they change their habits for the good of the 4Wdriving community and the environment
There, I am off my soap box. Happy 4Wdriving and please take your rubbish out with you. that is for the bleep minority.
Reply By: robak (QLD) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:00
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:00
Good on you nugget.
If more people were motivated enough to do what you did we'd see less of these problems.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:04
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:04
exactly my thought.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:54
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:54
ditto
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:54
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:54
Mine too. We have taken photographs of people in parks with dogs where signs clearly indicated that they were not allowed. Sent them on to local ranges for them to take action.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:20
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:20
I trust you do the same if you encounter a
dingo?!
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 18:45
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 18:45
No I wouldn't Mike. A
Dingo has as much right to be in a NP as any other native animal. People pulling up, letting the dogs out to deficate everywhere is not what preserving the natural environment is about. At least the
Dingo would stay out of sight.
Cross breeds are another matter though.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:36
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:36
I am trying to make the point that there is a difference between someone taking a Poodle on a lead into an NP and someone taking a couple of Rottweilers off lead into the same NP.
A
Dingo is _not_ a native animal to Australia - my understanding is that they have been here for about 5000 years and they, sometimes, kill people. I'm not aware of any Poodle generated deaths?
To photograph and report people with their Poodle in an NP seems very petty and in keeping with the "Ve Vill Obey Thez Rules" mentality to me.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:42
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:42
I’m sorry, I just re-read your post: you think a
dingo crapping in the bush is somehow different and, presumably, superior to a Poodle crapping in the bush!?
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:09
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:09
Hows it going Des.
A couple of weeks ago our family with a couple of others went camping to a free NP
camp site just south of
Ulladulla .
The location of
our camp was unreal , on a headland just metres from a perfect beach .
It didnt take long to see what the story was : zero
camp etiqutte , people used any bush as a
toilet witout digging a hole and just left the paper behind , others built up huge fires before leaving to go fishing for a few hours. people left heaps of rubbish behind .
I reckon you are more likely to tread in human poo that any ( other ) animal's in the more frequented areas.
Dont you reckon its a bit petty taking photos of people and sending them in , perhaps you dont have enough interesting stuff to do in your day .
Glenn.
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Follow Up By: brad1972 - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:37
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:37
actually poodles are considered vicious
Selectmen ruled Monday that a poodle with a history of three attacks in three years
should continue to be officially designated as "vicious."
The board, in a 5-0 vote, agreed with Animal Control Officer Mike Leskouski's
recommendation about the dog.
The animal, a male poodle owned by Irene Gravina of 19 Masardis St., has been
quarantined twice since 2003. It reportedly attacked a woman walking her dog May 15
Brad
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:42
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:42
Goodness!
I'll watch out for vicious Poodles in future!
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit [WA] - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:17
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:17
WTF ????
Dingoes kill people????
Less than one death every 20 years by
dingo.
More than two deaths every year by domestic dogs.
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:33
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:33
Once I saw a poodle nearly killed a Rottweiler in a fight.
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 00:57
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 00:57
i think the original poodle breed in standard size were very vicious and were bred to hunt lions.
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:04
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:04
SA Patrol,
",,,,,,,Once I saw a poodle nearly killed a Rottweiler in a fight.,,,,"
Yeah, go on, I'll buy it.
How?
Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:24
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:24
Mike you are a classic! The difference isnt in the scat, its in the law. There isnt a law that says that
Dingo's cant be taken into parks, but if there is for a barker then theyre doing the wrong thing. It is no difference to the Winnebago story, its not legal and shouldnt be allowed to happen.
By your reasoning a winnebago pulling up and dumping copious amounts of vicious poodle scat down the stormwater is allowable.
And where does the stormwater go? Into our
drinking water. Imagine only being able to drink goats milk and not our pristine water.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:51
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:51
So we must always be directed by "The Law" eh? If "The Law" says something is prohibited (or required) then it must be followed without consideration? Rather like people blindly following the tenets of puritanical religions.
Tell me what you think of this law and whether you would insist upon it being obeyed:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6161396.stm
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:55
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:55
Yes sorry mate and thanx for the reminder, yes I think we should be directed by The Law. We should comply and then change the law if that is what pushes us. We have the ways and means to do so if its an unfair or unreasonable law. But that means your displeasure with The Law being subjected to a "reasonable person"
test and you'll need people who think like u to help u change the law.
What we try and do is change The Law by simply disregarding it and that doesnt work IMHO.
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Follow Up By: Member - Karl - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:08
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:08
I suppose if you are such a gay looking dog like a poodle then you do need to be able to fight :-))
I to would report those type of people - the is the law and if it get broken enough times then we get locked out and we all get punished.
Karl
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:08
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:08
Also, Mike it is not my place to comment on the Nicaraguan Anti-Abortion Law as I have a different cultural background and opinions based on that.
Interestingly the comment in the article:
"....Public opinion in Nicaragua, which is estimated to be 85% Roman Catholic, appeared to be behind the bill.... "
Seems to tell me that he had people who think like him to help the law go thru.
If it was 85% against, then I reckon it would be a tougher thing to get thru. Of course I am talking about democratic communities, not Dictatorships or Yourocratic disgraces.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:27
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:27
But is it _right_ Bonz. Should a woman with an ectopic pregnancy take no steps to save her life because 85% of people say she should not?
Was it right to turn Jews over to the authorities in 1940 Germany because the law said you must?
Kerry Packer used to, quite legally, pay $80 a year tax (or something similar) was that right?
We should never confuse "The Law" with morality, justice or right and wrong.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:37
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:37
Morality, justice and right and wrong are culturally influenced outcomes. In a democracy such as ours we have the power and right to challenge and change a law.
In Germany which was a Youreacracy (You do this You do that) the anti semitic culture fostered the holocaust. In my opinion it was neither right, nor moral. Neither is the Nicaraguan abortion Law. In our culture these things would be non-events.
If Kerry Packer can use the same laws that u and I use to claim our deductions to reduce his tax significantly then good on him, but Bottom of the Harbour schemes like that were routed and changed, such is the power of a dis-enfranchsed community.
We fight wars for many reasons, one is to rectify human rights denial, I would fight to change that. But the Law of War and The Law are 2 different things.
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:31
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:31
Where do you get these new killer poodles from ?
I need a new Guard dog that does`nt eat much.
And best of all attack Rottys.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:08
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:08
These 'killer' poodles are a one use only item,
After the Rotty or lion or whatever chokes to death on them they arent much good for anything and you need a new one.
LOL
Glenn.
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:36
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:36
That`s no problem, I`ll buy an extra one for a spare.
cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:32
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:32
any one considering that a
dingo is a native animal should just have a think about how long until they consider cane toads as native. Certainly all the evedence points to dingos being far more destructive. No animal has been recoded as being extinct cozof the cane toad but evedence points to dingos causing plenty of them there is groing evedene to show tha white man is a poor 3rd in the leading cause forextinctions in OZ behind dingos and aboriginals
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 22:26
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 22:26
Mike, if the
Dingo has been on this continent for only 5000 years, it has more right to be here than you and me. Poodles like pitbulls should be put down at birth.
Your comments only reinforce me previous opinions of you. Sorry but those comments are not suitable to air on this
forum.
Davoe, unfortunately the cane toad will be responsible for the potential extinction of many of our smaller animals but it is probably too early to see the damage and loss of species that will probably eminate.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:12
Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:12
>Poodles like pitbulls should be put down at birth.
Why am I not surprised by that comment?
>Your comments only reinforce me previous opinions of you.
>Sorry but those comments are not suitable to air on this
forum.
Ah... look mate... when I feel the need to be loved by someone who takes secret photographs of people and sends them to "The Authorities" I'll let you know.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:24
Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:24
What was the question again? LOL
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 21:03
Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 21:03
Bilbo,
it was lodged in the rotties throat, the rottie nearly chocked to death :-(
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:03
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:03
Nugget,
Good on you for at least trying to point out the error of their ways.
I have never caught anyone in the act, but have seen plenty of evidence in
places we have camped. I saw an unusual looking plant at Quaggy's Beach in WA (great spot BTW) which had some kind of white 'growth' on it. Went to have a look out of interest and quickly realised it was the result of someone dumping their chemical
toilet over the fence right next to the
campsite. Complete with a tampon hanging off a branch.
Just a lack of consideration for the environment and other users I guess.
Matt.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:53
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:53
Hmmm chemical toilets. My Charge in
IPSWICH used to say:
"nothing down here you aint et"
Pete
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:29
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:29
As a generalisation in my personal experience by far the biggest culprits in remote WA are the 'traditional landowners'. Apalling lack of respect displayed.
This comes from many personal observations and anacdotal evidence from fellow travellers, pastoralists and the poor unfortunates responsible for picking up the poo filled nappies ie: the park rangers.
(and for those mindless PC dweebs twittering amongst us, if you wish to label me 'racist' in your quivering, purile, screachy, falsetto voices go ahead to your hearts content. I'm not and anyway, I don't give a rats quoit what you think)
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Follow Up By: the nugget - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:42
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:42
I agree with you V8. You only have to drive along the roads from their nearest "water hole" to see the empties and all other rubbish.
When you travel those remote areas and get slugged $10,- 40 per vehicle, ($240 to visit Arnhem land), wouldn't mind so much if monies was used to clean up the areas, But???
We aren't racists at heart just branded by those purile minorities because we dare speak out to point out the error of their ways. - The Nugget
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:08
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:08
the way i see it, if you take each individual as his own person excluding his race, you can make partial judgements about someone. eg are they always late for meetings, do they like dogs, are they rich are they poor or are they messy/dirty/disrespectful of the environment as in this case. If it turns out that of a given race that there is a high porportion of poeple who act a certain way, then thats just a stat that is related to their culture/upbringing. I have also lived in wa,
kalgoorlie and met lots of aboriginal people and on the whole found them ok. In addidion to them being ok to deal with, on the whole, they dont see any value in having clean houses, gardens, or keeping things like front doors on their hinges. I found most of them wanted me to give them money for nothing to buy food, but eventually I started offering to buy the food directly to which i also found I gave away less money. Is this racist, I dont know, but to me its just an observation. EG I also find most indian and shrilankins houses have this stink that i really dont like, but they do! thats
cool, it does not make me dislike them, just not want to spend time in their houses. If we all moved to india I bet we would have constant complaints about our behaviour too as it would reflect how we were raised. Back to the point, its not racist to observe that aboriginal people as opposed to what I hear the elders constantly say on tv, may not care to much for the environment in a physical way. Perhaps they have lost some of their knowledge of old.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:24
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:24
Might try and get a photo of all the filth and rubish the leave just metres from the Worlds laregst Bin near the Feddy----- kinda says it all.
A freind of mine on a cultural awareness course asked the elder why the hell they cant find a bin. the elder agreed and was unsure but said it may have somthing to do with traditional nomadic lifestyle where all but the bareset essentials are left behind
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 16:29
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 16:29
yeah nail on head. you can leave a piece of wood lying around, it does not look messy and goes away quickly. plastic bags dont do that and if treated the same cause the problems we are talking about.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andy Q (VIC) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:15
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:15
Ahh! another hijacking!!!
andy
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:25
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:25
No it isn't. Aborigines are responsible for much of the rubbish we encounter in remote areas - but I suspect you, really, have another agenda.
Mike harding
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Follow Up By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:04
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:04
The Aboriginals cannot surely be responsable for all the litter, littering our highways & byways with
beer,softdrink,water & any other sort of bottles, box's & not to mention rubbish in houshold plastic bags tied up waiting for some one to run over it & spread it far & wide & those blasted throw away nappies.
My pet hate 'RUBBISH ALONG OUR HIGHWAYS'.Usually it is at the convienience rest area.
Bob.
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:24
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:24
And who said they were X90?
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Follow Up By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:35
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:35
Diesel it is implied.!!
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:27
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:27
You got got be kidding.
Here's an idea. Read my first sentence. That should clarify quite clearly my view on 'who', 'what' and 'where'. Straight forward and no interpretation required.
Now read my last sentence very carefully................
Do you pick up on me 'implying' something there?
How appropriate.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:41
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:41
ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member
No you got it wrong
He already knows who HE is...
I did
Richard
And don't call me Dick it's down grading. to YOU that is...lol :-)
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Follow Up By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 07:56
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 07:56
Diesel, my reply does not say it was you.MMMMMMMMMMM
Have a good weekend.
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Follow Up By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 07:59
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 07:59
Richard remove your' but out'.
Have a good weekend also.
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:13
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 09:13
Diesel it is implied.!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Julie P (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:15
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:15
re "traditional owners" - and what is it they are leaving around as rubbish - "white mans" stuff - truly traditional owners live with the land, and respect it.
- this thread started out quite sensibly talking about the dumping of raw sewage - how and why did it get onto a diatribe about dogs and racist comments?
If you have something to say unrelated to the thread - start a new thread - and as for "ze law" - well they are only made because some people are trying to keep
places clean, safe and accessible to other people - would you like your local park to have sewage dumped down the drain, near where children play?
jules
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:02
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:02
"white mans stuff".......are you honestly serious about that dig Julie?
Get out and about more or see paragraph 3.
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Follow Up By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:10
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:10
The point here & away from the original thread is that you Deisel are saying & quite correct in that the "Traditional Owners" do leave rubbish around out back & so do the "White People" probably more so than the" Original Land Owners."
My point is that you cannot single out them as to not us.
Have a good weekend .
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:44
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:44
anyone that believes littering is worsein the bush than ever really needs to get of the net and head bush. back way back when NOTHING was taken back dont believe me --- Oh hang on thats coz you didnt recognize that fascinating camp with all the old relics as a rubish tip that didnt have a dump site. i havewalked through the bush and found old bottles plates and water tanks - all dumped. things have improved vastly but blackfella camps havnt as kids we could make a small fortune sifting through oldclothes wombat sketetons and busted shoes to get the 1l bottles which went 5 to the dollar in the early 80s 1 bottle got you one game of space invaders!
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 17:19
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 17:19
Good point Davoe.
I do a lot of
gold prospecting around
Victoria and the amount of junk I come across left by the "Old Timers" is astonishing!
btw Julie P: I had a feeling that somehow, someone would find a reason to blame the "White Man" for Aborigines dumping rubbish in the bush - people are responsible for themselves; otherwise you're patronising them and there really is a severe danger of racism in doing that - although it usually goes unrecognised as such.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: GQ again - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:45
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 17:45
you wouldnt do it at home so why do it in the bush some of the most dirtiest campers are the ones in the cleanest houses in the city
it sh*ts me these people should stay at home and leave the bush to the people who respect it and love this country
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Follow Up By: howie - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:52
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:52
i remember when we were
young and were taught to respect lots of things.
this has held me in good stead in my adult years and 4wding, in my respect for the bush, people and surrounds.
i remember when we only had an outside toilet which was handy on those winter nights in england.(not)
then my parents saved up for a long time and eventually lashed out, and put a new bathroom inside the house and bought a BBQ.
then we could sh*t inside the house and eat outside!!!!
that's progress for you.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:56
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 19:56
Love it - and can relate to it - howie :)
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Reply By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:13
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:13
Well I tend to agree and disagree with you all -???
But the QLD'er in the Winnie is still a filthy pig......hope they get the whacka.....
I love a sunburn country a land of dirty nappies... and empty tinnies..
When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn...
To my children - here! this crap is all yours....
What a sorry lot the litterers are..
Grrr!!!
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Reply By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:17
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 20:17
Did you know worms and dung beetles eat dog sh:t and that we can not burn the timber in a National Park, but they won't it left as is, so they can have all these huge fires and burn all our little creatures. Have any of these pubic servants got any brains. MY 2 cents worth for Friday.
Cheers Bruce
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Follow Up By: GQ again - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:20
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:20
i agree when the parks staff learn that if we pick up the dead timber on the ground for campfires there is less to burn in the bushfires, most of us are there to look after and care for the parks so we can all enjoy them not destroy them as our parks and wildlife staff think
we campers and 4x4ers are the conservationists the others are preservationists they dont want anyone there to enjoy the bush.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:29
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:29
Bruce
You have to teach worms to eat dog dung... I see you didn't know that..
Regards
Richard
we have a worm farm.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 07:51
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 07:51
We have a worm farm too. The man we got our first lot of worms from said it was ok, as did the people we bought the worm farm from. Our worms have been happily eating the doggie poo.....actually it was the reason we bought the worm farm after doing lotsa research as to the best way to decompose the dog droppings......didn't like the idea of it sitting in the garbage bin for a week.....off the topic I know but thought you might be interested.
p.s. must be composting worms
cheers
Anne
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:41
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:41
Yes same for us
They told us to teach a worm to eat doggy poo (dp) just feed it dp only...
worms have the same outlook as humans, that is "if you don't eat you don't poo, if you don't poo you die...
Ours works fine
Cheers
Richard
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Reply By: Hairy - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:28
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:28
All this makes me a pretty bad person I suppose, actually a criminal!
I've taken my dog to a National park, not only did he have a crap their so did I, the Mrs. and my kids! Even worse I was drinking alcohol, you politically correct mob were thinking I was driving weren't you? No ...my son would have been! Dam good driver for 8 years old too I must add!
Jeeze I hope there were no spies in the bushes with cameras.
I think over a weekend we would usually leave about a woollies bags worth of turd in the bush but surely the glad bags worth of snot left by the political correct which we bring home and put in the bin must account for some sort of leniency when I come before the courts of the do gooders?
As for the wanker in the motor home....Hope they make an example of him!! Well done!
Cheers
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Reply By: Goldsahara - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:49
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 21:49
The problem with this littering business in my mind is this; Litterers look upon the world and see exactly what non litterers see, a huge world with endless skies and endless horizons. The litterers mind automatically thinks (a little rubish wont hurt and besides, it will go away in time wont it?) That's if they even give it some thought. If only 1% of people littered, it really wouldn't make a hell of a difference but of course in reality the situation is far worse in this (disposable) society. The non litterer on the other hand has compassion for the world and wants to do the right thing by it and his fellow man. Hopefully the non litterers out number the litterers by now just like non smokers out number smokers. If the non litterers of this world are that compassionate about the world we live in why not put some selfishness aside and pick up a few bits of the litterers rubbish. If all of us non litterers just picked up and disposed of a bit of the litterers rubbish when we see it, just imagine the difference that would make. Remember those ads on the television (drop something sport) i think that every generation has to be reminded to help solve this problem. Our government should still be airing those ads for all time to keep people reminded. And before anyone wants to fire some salvos at me regarding this, I practice what i preach otherwise I wouldn't waste my time writing this post. Thanks.
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Reply By: disco1942 - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:18
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:18
When it is a motorhomer an additional idea is to look for a CMCA logo on the van. If it has then record the
membership number if one is displayed as well as the registration number. Report this to the CMCA headquarters - they take action against members including loss of
membership (and consequently their vehicle insurance.)
PeterD
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:40
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 23:40
Well, this has been an interesting read.....im not racist, i hate all black buggers equally. I do think we all like to sin and throw stones too, next time you walk out of wollies with all that packaged food in plastic bags, or...better still, next time you flush your loo with drinking water...remember the old Joke....it is friday....
Jesus says to the jews....ye who have no sin, may cast the first stone.
This woman comes through the crowd and kills the pro with one rock....
Jesus says to her....MUM....your really getting my goat up....
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:45
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:45
Are you OK?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:32
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:32
I was thinking the same thing Sir Kovac.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:36
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 08:36
Dozer,
Ssssshhhhhhh .... uou're not allowed to mention goats :))))))
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 07:59
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 07:59
What's happened to your secateurs Bonzinc?
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:18
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:18
Nugget
This thread has got off topic a bit, while i dont condone their actions, and i wasnt there to get bleep off at the smell enough to chase them down the road, i urge a little bit of understanding.....maybe their crapper was overflowing? Maybe there was no other means for them to escape the odour...maybe they were just dirty tourists who live differently to us....like the woman i met in the mens toilet bathing her kids at Ningen....quite acceptable where they come from.....which brings me to the favourite topic of the decade....maybe Winnie are liable for not making the toilet big enough to hold 6 peoples floaties (6 birth-1 toilet) or maybe our government is liable for holding out their hand to catch the $$ but not educating the tourist as to what is expected over here....it never ceases to amaze me at how the government are a law unto themselves.....a rort to them is theift to us...super....well lets not go there....nor should i have mentioned the drinking water.....we should all move to Canberra....they wont get one of those recycling plants....
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Follow Up By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:18
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:18
Dozer there are no" EXCUSES" for that sort behaviour.
If it is full you can pull into a toilet block anywhere & dump it into the sewerage system (not in septic) as i have had to do on numerous occasions.Once & only once have we been caught short was away out from Birdsville last yr & i dug a deep hole in the sand off the roads nowhere near anything & buried the stuff you just don't do it like they did it.
Have a good weekend.
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