GU wheel bearings

Submitted: Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 13:19
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Hi,

How tight do you do the wheel bearings in a GU?? The GQ was damn tight to pre-load and then back off and just nip up, as per the norm.

However the GU was very tight, had to hit spanner with a hammer to undo. Then to get the nut back to a position so the locking washer could be screwed on it needed the same treatment. I'm guessing that's what is required for this model.
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Reply By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 14:06

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 14:06
It sounds as tho it was was too tight. The recommended method and the one I use is to check with a dial guage and tighten just until there is no movement. No tighter.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 16:39

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 16:39
That would be best but then you still have to line up with a threaded hole for the lock washer. Guess you could be lucky but it might mean going quite a bit tighter to line one up.
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Reply By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 16:50

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 16:50
I take it up quite tight at first to seat everything. Then back it off. Then with dial guage fitted, back it off and bring it up again until no movement. If a hole doesn't match then back off slightly. Recheck play once all fitted and give the wheel a good shake every few days for a while, as sometimes you think it is up tight and it isn't. so it pays to check
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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 17:35

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 17:35
i notice you say if the hole dosnt line up back off slightly
ive always been taught and teach that if the hole dosnt line up tighten to next hole
just wondering about your reasons
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 18:49

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 18:49
I've always been taught the reverse, as tightening will make the bearing overheat but a very small amount of play will not do any harm.I guess if you are a lot closer to a hole that involves tightening it wouldn;t make much difference, but if you start with bearing quite firm there should be plenty of room to back off without getting any play.
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Follow Up By: Flash - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:05

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:05
I'm with David on that one.
Excessive tightness will put a lot more strain on it all and make the bearings run too hot.
Sure you want no free play- but with as little tension as reasonably practical.
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Follow Up By: Flash - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:08

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:08
PS. I've repacked too many bearings on cars, trailers and 4WD's to even begin to count, and have never ever had a failure.... so must be doing something right. :-)
Cheers
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Reply By: Beadman- Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:08

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:08
My gu has 118,000km, going to cape in about 4 months should I be getting my wheel bearings done.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:16

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:16
yes. should be done every 40k.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Flash - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:10

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:10
YES.
If they've never been done you'll be heading for trouble.
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Reply By: steve&anja - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 23:57

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 23:57
Hi Austravel
I own 3 Toyota's and do most off my own maitainence including wheel bearings, I re grease mine 40.000 km with out fail replace if necessary.
One thing I have learned over the years is how tight they should be,The rear stub axel on a toyota has marks on the edge that show were the locating screw goes on the axel nut .
I have all ways tightened the locator hole on the nut firm past the mark and then loosen back to the nearest mark ,Im talking mm if Nissan doesn't have these marks I suggest tighten firm back off 5-7mm once its all back together tack for a good drive 40-50 km put your hand on the hub if you can hold your hand on the hub for 30 seconds you've done it right if its to hot the bearings are to tight. Hope this helps
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Reply By: Bilbo - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 00:45

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 00:45
You'll never wreck taper roller bearings by having 'em a BIT too slack, but sure as eggs you'll wreck 'em by having 'em a BIT too tight.

275,000 kms - Nissan Patrol wheel bearings all round, never had a failure ever.

Bilbo
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Reply By: Austravel - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 13:36

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 13:36
Thanks everyone for the info. It seemed strange but I thought maybe there had been a change in the GU compared to my old GQ.

As I brought it second hand in 2004 I had nissan do a 40k service to get a starting point. So I thought why not ring them and tell them what I found- both sides done up extremely tight, seals on both sides ripped one with the spring sitting in the hub and two of the king pin bearing seals rolled over backwards when fitted. Yep it was 2 years ago and 40k but I at least wanted to let them know, said from word go wanted nothing it was just feedback. Do you reckon they became defensive????? Now I know why I've normally serviced my vehicles for the last 30 years.

Still it shows just what tolerance there is when setting the wheel bearings. These were flogged up tight, inner ace is discoloured as is the axle. Went all over the top of WA like this and they didn't fail. I think it was just damn good luck but maybe the tolerance isn't as critical as we think. Knowing my luck now they are set right they'll fall apart.
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