Cheap tyres,,, ply seperation
Submitted: Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 16:41
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Member - Boo Boo (NSW)
Read here just recently that tyres may have problems when rotated,especially cheaper ones.
Well I had a wheel balance problem and suggested to the tyre place that we check the tyres for problems (The tyres had been rotated and then rebalanced by two different
places and the steering wheel still vibrated.
Jacked one side upat the front and put a block of wood next to the tyre and spun it slowly, large flat spot on tread, then I noticed biggish lump in side wall ,checked all four tyres and all have the same problem to varying degrees.
Going in tomorrowto meet the boss for four new tyres and a claim for at least 50%.
They were Hancook 285 x 16.
I wonder if they would have lasted on my trip to
Jabiru in 11 days time!
Regards Boo Boo
Reply By: the nugget - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 17:50
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 17:50
Hi Boo Boo,
I am a great user of Hancooks, was always told with wheel rotaion Left rear to left front & right rear to right front, never cross rotate as the tyre must rotate in the same direction. As the tread will separate from the main moulding of the tyre. Has something to do with the compound used in the tyre making, (so I am been told).
I believe this is for all tyres, as the new fourby I bought months back, and has current manufacturers bridgestone desert duellers on and I just recently had tyre rotaion, balance and wheel alignment as I am getting ready for a trip to a remote area, and was told they don't cross rotate due to possibility of tyre separation.
In relation to hancooks once the Manaufacturers tyres as supplied with th vehicles wear out I replace with hancooks, not problems with them. Have travelled the entire CSR, Gubbarrell, tanami, no problems with Hancooks. Have had them on the last 3 fourbys and have had 90,000 to 105,000 Ks out of them.
2 of the first 4 Hanooks I bought only last 78, 000Ks but that was my fault due to poor wheel alignment, as one side of the tyres could probably have done another 10-15,000Ks.
When I first started buying them I was a bit worried about them as they were still relatively new to 4Wdrives and BF Goodrich & Coopers were the in thing but very expensive as opposed to hancooks. I was very pleased to see the mining companies up north in WA in the gibberstone country using them and they swear bythem, so I was pretty happy about them & time and travel has proved their worth, to me anyway. Once these tyre I have on wear out I will replace them with Hancooks.
The Nugget.
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Follow Up By: phil - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:49
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:49
Interesting.
What type and size of Hankook do you use and what vehicle?
Phil I
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Follow Up By: the nugget - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:09
Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:09
Hi Phil last set of hancooks I used were 235/75R15 -Z36 - Dynamic radial and they were used on Nissan pathfinder. I have had hancooks on Vitara long wheelbase, Pajero & then the pathfinder, I was on second set with pathfinder when I sold it which had 207,000ks on the clock.
I found them to be an all round tyre, particularly in mud which they would throw out everywhere. The back of rear view mirrors would be caked with mud, even on top of the roof.
Once these manufacturers tyre that I have on the patrol have met their use by date I'll go back onto hancooks.
Cheers, The Nugget.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:39
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:39
My 80 series had Hancooks on them when I first bought it. The tyres were near new. At about 40,000km they were terribly out of balance and when I went in to have it adjusted they told me about ply separation, and showed me what had happened.
I replaced them (with BFGs). I don't thnk the Hancooks I had fitted were an all terrain tyre, but I must say they stood up to what had been dished out to them in that time quite
well, considering.
Quite happy with the BFGs, but thought the Hancooks peformed quite
well for a function that they were not designed for.
Jack
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Reply By: steve&anja - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 22:52
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 22:52
Hi Bob
Don't muck about get yourself a set of Australian made Bridgestone A/T duellers 265 65 16 you wont regret it see you in
Jabiru soon Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 23:25
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 23:25
My tyre retailer also declines to cross rotate, he gets my truck every 10k where he rotates front to back only. This guy told me that this was to reduce any chance of ply separation as after some mileage the tyres get a memory for want of a better description. I would add that he is not one of those franchised chains, he's an independent who has been in the industry for over 30 years. Does tyres for anything from a wheelbarrow to industrial equipment with an emphasis on heavy transport vehicles.
I raised this point many, many months ago on the
forum and was howled down by a particular member who made comments about then requiring two spares, one for left and one for right. I have had the need to change a wheel on any number of occasions, on goes the spare no matter which side, however it comes off again asap.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 10:51
Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 10:51
Steve
Had them rebalanced by the boss this morning while you were still in bed, and he says the tyres are ok.
So will keep them until I need to replace.
Took them for a road test and all was fine.
Will take your advice though at replacement time.
See you soon.
Regards Bob
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Reply By: Grandpa joe - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 00:11
Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 00:11
This was discussed the other day -: PostID: 42418
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