towing a sierra behind a motorhome

Submitted: Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 14:57
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i wish to hear from others who have towed using an a frame flat towing a sierra and how they found it.i have just purchased a new jayco conquest mh. /fiat ducato 2.8 l t/diesel and am wondering about the capability...
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Reply By: DIO - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 16:06

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 16:06
Hi, have a look at this site Campervan Motorhome Club of Aust Ltd. There's a lot of expertise and experience to be found there. I'd be very surprised if you don't find the answers you are seeking, from them.
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Follow Up By: DIO - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 19:16

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 19:16
Another site that should be of great interest to you Hitch'n'Go they make specific mention of the Suzuki Sierra. You should also be aware that towing anythin gover 750 kg requires brakes. This site explains all.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:14

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:14
This requirement only applies in NSW. All other states only require the towing vehicle to be 3.5 times the weight of the towed vehicle and no brakes are necessary. From the CMCA website

"TOWING MASS RATIO:

The loaded weight of the towing vehicle compared with the weight of the loaded towed vehicle (including the “A”-frame) is known as the combination’s towing mass ratio.

If the loaded tow vehicle weighs 4 tonnes and the loaded towed vehicle weighs 1 tonne, the tow ratio is 4 to 1.

Towing mass ratio must be at least 3.5 to 1

Tests and computer simulations conducted in 2002 by Road user Systems, consultant engineers, using a Mitsubishi Canter motor home towing an unbraked Suzuki Vitara 4WD with varying loads showed that the towing mass ratio must be at least 3.5 to 1 to provide adequate stability and braking performance.

Ratios greater that this (eg 4 to 1) were shown to have higher dynamic stability and performed better under emergency braking. It is therefore a requirement that the towing mass ratio must be at least 3.5 to 1, and it is highly recommended that the ratio be greater than this, and as high as possible for improved handling, controllability and braking.

Towing mass ratios of less than 3.5 to 1
Combinations with a towing mass ratio of less than 3.5 to 1 require the brakes of the towed vehicle to operate when the brakes of the towing vehicle are applied.

Vehicle Standards Information (VSI 41) : At present ( 14/12/06) only applies to NSW
This states the requirement for brakes on greater than 750kg trailer
Ian



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Follow Up By: kismet 283 - Sunday, Mar 18, 2007 at 03:32

Sunday, Mar 18, 2007 at 03:32
I have towed a 1997 vitara for year's with a hitch and go A frame. I have found it very good with the Coaster on tar,sand,and dirt roads. This Aframe is legal in all states and comes with papers to say same. This saves you mucking around with ratios,mass,computer simulations,and all the other bleep . When it is behind the coaster it is packed with gear, and tows fine at 95,100kph
Ian C
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Reply By: MP - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 17:36

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 17:36
Out of curiosity on the subject, do you disconnect the odometer somehow so that all the towing kms aren't racked up on the Suzi? Would a trailer be a better option?

Cheers

MP
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Follow Up By: alexjan - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 18:57

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 18:57
cant be bothered re odoemter,and a trailer adds more {unnecessary weight to be towed, but hey thanx for replying!
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Follow Up By: kismet 283 - Tuesday, Mar 20, 2007 at 05:12

Tuesday, Mar 20, 2007 at 05:12
It takes 15 min,s to disconect odemter,handy if you are away for 12 months or more.If i travel on main road,s i use rpm meter or gps. Ianc
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 18:26

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 18:26
Have seen this done but if it were me I would be towing the suzi on a trailer just big enough to carry the vehicle.

Added advantages are that you can stick maybe another spare wheel and tyre for the fiat on the trailer and also if you find a nice quiet spot you can tow the trailer with the suzi to go collect a bit of firewood.

Dunno how much modification you need to do to the suzi but I would think it would be no more work driving the suzi on and off the trailer and hooking some tie straps on it that connecting and disconnecting using the A-frame.

Just my opinion.

Muddy
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 21:36

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 21:36
The trailer will need to have brakes , also reversing the trailer will be 100 times better than reversing the suzi.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:26

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:26
The problem with a trailer is that you have three vehicles to park. Can be a problem in a van park. Also have three regos to pay. Reversing a Suzi is easier than reversing a trailer. Just unhitch and away you go. Just make sure you put the transfer case in neutral so it doesn't wear out when towing. Mechanical speedos will continue to accumulate kms but modern electrical ones wont with the ign turned off.
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Reply By: alexjan - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 18:59

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 18:59
good point thanx!
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:24

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:24
Alexjan
The fuel consumption of the fiat will be very good so the savings on running the suk will be less than the extra fuel to tow it so why bother? If you think you can not take the fiat into shopping centers or bush tracks, I say when you get used to it you will be surprised how good it is,it helps if you fit a reversing camera. Eric.
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Reply By: Member - eerfree(QLD) - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:26

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:26
alexjan
I have Not towed anything with a Motorhome so this is an opinion only!!!
The Jayco weighs about 3850 Kg and has a tow capacity of 1000 KG, the Suzi has a kerb weight of 950 Kg, and then the general concensus has a trailer involved as well,then have a look at how much length there is behind the rear axle, and the Fiat is Front Wheel Drive.
My thoughts only!!!

eerfree
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 00:05

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 00:05
In that case an A-frame is your only option. A trailer will put you over the tow capacity, but your towing mass ratio allows you to use an A-frame (outside NSW) without brakes. If you must go to NSW you will have to have a braking system fitted to your A-frame.
Ian
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Follow Up By: kismet 283 - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:18

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:18
Hitch-n-go a frame towing
46-50 Jabiru drive Yeppoon
QLD.Australia 4703
PH.0749395944 Fax0749398600
The a frame is about $1100 with rear light and brake kit
Ianc
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