Hand held UHFs any suggestions

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 21:00
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For added safety I would like my guides to have a hand held UHF as part of there kit this year, could someone give me some ideas as to a good brand price is not an issue as I don't mind paying for a good product.
Cheers Steve Top End Explorer Tours.
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Reply By: Im.away - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 21:11

Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 21:11
I saw on this forum previously that Icom make a quality, 5 watt handheld.
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 21:48

Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 21:48
I have 2x Motorola at $95 per set and they are close to useless. The batteries do not hold their charge and the Radios will only speak to one another and not to the Uniden UFH in the truck. Plus the charging kit is also not the best.

We thought it would be a good idrea to have them when walking out in the scrub but it has turned out to be a stupid idea and a waste of money.

Will pass them on to some kids when birthday time comes around again.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 22:08

Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 22:08
Yes I will back Im.away on that, and also add GME , Willem has given his experience with Motorola, and I will also add that if you want others to hear your transmissions clear and readable then bypass Uniden
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Reply By: SteveL - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 23:04

Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 23:04
I use an Icom IC-40S which is the UHF CB version of the IC-F3 / 4 as used by US military forces.There are also plenty of aftermarket accessories such as batteries and antennas available unlike the GME radios.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 23:25

Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 23:25
Steve,

Being in the same type of business, we also have hand held UHF. We have had the GME 6000 for a few years now.

The battery will last and they have a 12 volt charger for the vehicle as well as the 240 charger that we use between trips. 5watt with a good range. I have spoken, in good conductions, over 30km(line of sight) using them.

The 6000 has been replaced with a later model which I believe is better than the 6000. They are not cheap, but if you want good commutation in a hand held unit than I think that they are the way to go.

All of the guides that work for GDT have one with them when on trips and we also hire them out for those drivers that do not have a UHF in there vehicles for the trip.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:37

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:37
I have to agree with Wayne, I have the 6000 and have found it to be very good with both battery life and range. The new model is I think the 6200 and both models have a car kit available so that you can hard wire in the vehicle as well as having it as a hand held. The also come with a water proof cover and provision for a larger gain aerial.

Will purchase another when the need arises

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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 01:44

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 01:44
Steve, my first trip in the simpson I only had handhelds....... A 5 watt and a 2 watt..... With the 5 watt I scored myself 25kms. I was on a dune and some one else was at poepel corner..... I heard them very clearly and probably could have been another 10 kms away
I really was not concerned about contacting people but was just making sure I could talk to people every now and then
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Reply By: Big Woody - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 07:30

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 07:30
I would only consider 2 radios for what you want to do.
I have the GME TX6000 and really have abused it in the car and the bush for about 6 years.
In that time I have had no problems at all with the radio but have had the battery pack rebuilt about 18 months ago when it wasn't holding a full charge.
You can add accessories if you wish and I use mine in the vehicle with the car kit and external 6/9db gain antenna.
I also have the speaker mike which I find great as I am starting to get a bit deaf I can hold the speaker mike up near my ear or even clip it onto my collar and I don't have to have the volume flat out disturbing everyone else in the vehicle.
I think GME now have the TX 7000 which I am sure would be an improvement on my old radio but while it still works so well I can't see me updating.
The only other radio I would recommend as mentioned above would be the ICOM. They make quality gear but not sure if they have the full car kit and accessories like GME have available.

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Brett
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:13

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:13
the GME 6000 is the proven product It is all I have used for ore spotting. 12 hours continous use and being bounced off rocks 2-3x a shift shouldnt even be considering anything alse
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 07:41

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 07:41
As a rule of thumb only, allow 1 km of range per 1 watt of output power.

There are many very biased opinions on which brand is best. Personally, I have had absolutely no problem with Uniden 2 & 5 watt radios. The 5 watt versions are both hand held and in vehicle models. I use UHF in convoys in the bush and mountains where all brands are being used and they all have very limited range when in heavy bush. I think you should not be cheap, get a minimum of 2 watt radios (they seem to be have almost as much range as the 5 watt).

Some of the very small handhelds are very fiddly and you almost need a handbook to just change channels, keep it simple and don't go after the bells and whistles. If you are offering them for use by guides it may be useful to have both handheld and in vehicle radios, one radio set to a channel for convoy use and the other radio set to a chat channel for the guides but remember chat etiquette as everything you say can be heard by others within range ! All my battery devices use AA or AAA batteries, I hate being tied to a special battery that costs heaps, has built in obsolescence and can't be used in any other device. AA or AAA can be charged while driving or swapped out from gps, camera, mp3, shaver etc. as required.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 07:54

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 07:54
Spot on Kiwi Kia ... I have a hand held Uniden and have the same philosophy as regards battery. Mine uses AAs, and are easily recharged in the vehicle.

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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:19

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:19
Yes,

Agree 100% with you Jack. I have a 2 watt Uniden and it performs very well for what it is, a suplementary Radio. It was relatively cheap and was purchased primarily because it uses AA batteries. Can be bought "anywhere" or rechargables used.

The "Uniden Bashing" I keep hearing about is based on heresay, rather than experience I suspect. No one has misheard my transmissions and they don't know what brand I use.

The 2 watt units have the advantage of being compact, compared with the bigger 5 watt units and a much more flexible in their power source.

Gets down to what one needs them for.
For communication between convoys, or back to a vehicle "base station" from the near vicinity when on foot, they are a very good investment, Whatever the Brand.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 18:53

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 18:53
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The "Uniden Bashing" I keep hearing about is based on heresay, rather than experience I suspect.

So you think my comments about Uniden are based on hearsay , I would presume I spend a lot more time on the roads than you ,Australia wide,I stand by my comments about the Uniden, I have been putting it to the test for over 4 years , Everytime I hear a distorted transmission and feel like doing the test I ask the driver what he is using , I say is it a Uniden , always get the YES , then he says how do you know ,Someone said just a while back it could be that they hold the Mike to close, done that teast too , got them hold it away, talk quieter , and to no avail the transmissions still sound like crap, Unidens are are built ok , they will last as long as the others, they won't break down , but like it or not they are sound like crap to the listener on the other end,
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 09:02

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 09:02
I chose the GME 6200 - studied the many features of several handhelds for some time prior - it was the GME or the Icom 5 watt equivalent - far as I recall, the GME had the edge due to the type of battery (NiMH). The Uniden 5 watter seemed too small to me - battery life would have been shorter (the battery in the other two units mentioned here are more than 50% of the case bulk it would seem). The GME comes with a stumpy antenna - it works very well with that but the optional longer antenna would add something for your staff. Got my unit with a leather case (includes belt clip), fast charger and slow charger (best) for $425 in a show special here in SA.
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