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Hi all
I'm looking at upgrading my uhf and was wondering is it still worth going for somthing with a scanning feature as i have heard that emergancy channels are now going digital what are your views.
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:23

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:23
I don't find scanning that effective anyways whilst driving.

You tend to come in an out of range of occasional conversations where you can only catch one side of the cocky's wife's conversation with some other cocky's wife five k's away the other side of her. Never enough to pick up on any really interesting gossip though.

It is better than listening to the mindless drivel that is Chanel-40 (a bad smelling perfume at that) admittedly.

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Reply By: PeteS - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:27

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:27
Hi ash05

You have provided no info on what state you are in or what emerg service channels you wish to monitor.

The scanning feature you mention in a UHF radio will not pick up the majority of emergency services such as fire, police etc. I have a dedicated Radio Shack Pro-96 digital scanner which does pick up such services and requires a lot of programming and help from others when you first start out. Even with my scanner you cannot decipher the encrypted police conversations (sounds like ducks talking under water).

Hopefully others can assist if provide more details.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 00:17

Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 00:17
Interesting, isn't it, esp. in light of your next post
We have the basic GME3200, and are happy enough.
Times happen when a fixed channel needs 'on', but scanning is imperative. We now have the little GME Tx610 to fill the gap.

Not talking outside the standard 40 channels, eh :that's too flash for me.
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Reply By: ash05 - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:28

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:28
yeah i completly aggree with you, but the question was directed more to the emergancy band scanning.
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Reply By: ash05 - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:31

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:31
pete i was looking at getting an icom ic-400 uhf but is it worth paying for those scanning features when i could spend half the money and get a simple 40 channel gme uhf
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:45

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:45
ash05

Depends a bit on the depth of your pockets. I would suggest the simple 40 ch UHF will suit your needs as well as save you a lot of $ for "other things".

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PeteS
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 23:19

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 23:19
I agree with Pete ash, a TX3200 will do group scanning and then transmit on the channel you have been using. If you want to scan other channels like the CFA in Victoria the TX4400 I have doesn't get to those frequencies anyway. I have a scanner here for that dedicated use. Prestige Communications are great for pricing and delivery round Australia.
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Reply By: ash05 - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:55

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:55
so pete you are saying that the icom ic-400 wont pick up these new digital frequencies making the icom useles for scanning emergancy channels, i dont now that is why i'm seeking for info i am unaware and dont know much about scanning i know is that i have a pearce and simpson uhf with channels programed for police scanning but i have never herd any activity on these channels and i have been told that this would be because the police have gone digital.
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:04

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:04
ash05

Most states have the ambos, fire etc on a special set of frequencies that you cannot monitor easily or in some cases not monitor at all. Police in some states cannot be monitored at all as they are encrypted.

I don't profess to know anything about the Icom IC-400 however I would suggest unless you know how and what you want to specifically monitor the best bangs for bucks (and keep it simple) go the basic UHF.

PeteS
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:40

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:40
Ash05

To be a little pedantic - it will still pick up those channels but you will not get any sense out of them unless you also have a box to decode the digital code.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:56

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 21:56
I find scaniogn handy for times when I need to listen in on say a few channels, or for listening to others or across the band like when travelling remote and litening for others travelling towards you or in the same vicinity tracks etc, have found it useful a few times, and all the UHF's i have have it anyways.

If you mean the extra channels that are programmable then I wouldnt bother, only SES and some CFA channels are still used, wallopers are all SMR.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:04

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:04
'If you mean the extra channels that are programmable then I wouldnt bother, only SES and some CFA channels are still used, wallopers are all SMR'

yep that's about it. I have a GME4400 and I like the priority scanning option when it checks the channel I am using and if it detects someone talking gives that channel priority over the other channels you are scanning.

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 23:22

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 23:22
CFA use different frequency ranges than is available on even the TX4400. I guess SES too. I agree with you Leroy on the Group scans. You can cut out the data streaming channels then too.
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Reply By: disco1942 - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:50

Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 22:50
Some models have a couple of scanning modes - either scanning the lot or scanning what you select to have scanned (often called open scan & group scan) These models also have a selectable 'priority" channel. Set the priority channel to the main one you wish to monitor and select the others you wish to monitor in the group scan. That way the radio scans through the channels several times a second instead of taking seconds to scan the whole 40.

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Reply By: John R (SA) - Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 01:12

Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 01:12
Short answer; use a uhf to scan uhf channels. You'll quite likely need a wider bandwidth (and possibly trunk tracking) scanner for emergency services.

Long version:
i. which state are you in?
ii. what do you want to listen to?

SA & NSW are running trunked systems, so a uhf (at least in SA) may pick it up, but you won't follow the conversation (not sure who uses the NSW system, but in SA with a trunking scanner you can pick up SAAS, CFS, SES, NPWS, FSA etc . . most govt outfits except SAPOL who are encrypted).

NSW are looking at going digital (but I don't think they are yet), and when they do a standard uhf will be useless.
SA is yet to go digital, and no one knows when they will (Site Link
You can put in your post code, or the name of a company who may have their own registered licence. In the case of a post code, it will give you a list of licences registered to that area.
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Reply By: ash05 - Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:44

Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:44
no worries John thank you, you had the info l needed, and thank all for your input. Just one last question l don't want any arguments in your own opinion what is the best value for money radio just list the model you prefer or have or want.
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Follow Up By: John R (SA) - Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:33

Monday, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:33
GME 3400 - discrete & easy to install when dash space is at a premium.

GME 4400 - if room in the dash.

Have a couple of each in various vehicles.
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