The LAZY Travellers............

Yeah bonz, I was going to ask willie about some places to explore when next we meet, planning to go into the desert next year. not sure if I should ask now......
Nick

Nick R

You actually going somewhere..LOL

OWNED!!

Willie,
I did say next year!!!
We are planning to take 3 weeks next year, take in a simpson crossing and whatever else is between here and there we will have a look at too.....
Trip planning has already begun, trailer mods, etc the patrol is ready to go I think since it has had a few ironman bits added......

Off to Balmoral on friday for 3 nights and mid year we will do a trip up the east coast but I would like to return via innaminca or western nsw.

Drought should break before mid 2008!!!!
NickR

And I take that Dad R will have to stay home during that time...lol

gota agree.Movedto perth a year ago and I reckon thosethat say it has such nice weather have obviosly never lived somewhere that actually does. Summer doestnt start till january and even then you only get a couple of warm days in a row, it rains a heck of a lot and the wind blows harder than when Cyclone George brushed Nullagine blowing down fences and trees on a regular basis - and hats non a clear day not even a storm!

Doug

Southern Hemisphere...right?

Weather about the same as in Central Australia. Now you know...lol

Willem
Thanks for the weather... bugger ...I'm none the wiser, got me thick shirt on again this morning,
Is it PICK on Willem week this week ,if it is pick on Willem Week then Willem could go William Creek to escape the Willem Pickers from Williamtown.

WILLEM ARRIVING IN AUSTRALIA

Hahahaha

Yes...lol

Quoting Truckster again. ;-)))))))))

What? No smiley face Gramps....LOL

give him time to wake up.

Oh, what a big trunk you have.....

Willem/JohnR,

hahahaha just being serious and doing my Truckster impression :)))))

Water at Easter ... what happened to the wine?

dosen't water turn to wine over Easter :)
Mine does. I put water in teh fridge and take wine out.........

Hairy

Enough...lol

Most of us are in drought, wine is going to be cheaper than water.
And it is presterilised.

I can turn wine into water, dead easy. :>)) Sip.

Dave

Throw a stone in to the bush and you might hit something...LOL

Poor first time posters..they would have to be scared of their own shadow. Get real.

Not a matter of being scared Willem I wouldn't say, more a matter of potential first time posters reading posts such as yours and deciding to take their questions (and potential exposure/business for the site in general) elsewhere.

Not desirable in my opinion for the overall benefit of the site.

Gav

Good grief, now we have to protect the first time posters. What has happened to a lively debate.

Life isn't perfect. There is no Nirvana.

If the site owners do not like my post it is their prerogative to remove it. I have had many posts removed but mainly because other posters get their knickers in a knot over nothing.

It is MY observation and MY opinion.

If you don't like it. Tough!!!

LOL sorry Willem, wasn't aiming to ruffle your feathers!!

Wasn't suggesting your post should be removed, was just highlighting my opinion as to what I thought the repercussions could be. The site in my opinion is for the sharing of all things travel/4WD related for the benefit of all and sundry, whether as experienced as yourself, or complete novices.

It is only natural that the novices will want to ask the experienced what they did etc. in a particular area and what the would change if doing it again. It is the natural learning process, and the reason why we propogate and dominate as a species. I.e. why go and make the same mistakes someone else has made when there is an opportunity to avoid them. You would be stupid not to try and limit your mistakes. You can be sure you'll make enough as it is, why commit yourself through lack of research to making the same mistakes others have already had the misfortune to make.

You raised a valid point for discussion, I was just giving you my opinion.

Gav

LOL

Mate, I share lots of my experiences here on the forum and on my website.

The point is that people ask questions of what to see over a 2000km distance and expect a full blast of all the variables without being specific.

What may be mistake for one is not necessarily a mistake for someone else. It is all a matter of preferences. There are a plethora of examples. Just do a search....hahaha

"The point is that people ask questions of what to see over a 2000km distance and expect a full blast of all the variables without being specific."

Yeah fair enough Willem, so you're suggesting if people asked more specific questions, therefore demonstrating that they have done some research and have some specific queries based on the results of that research, it would be better?

If so, yep I see your point.

Just an observation mate.

Funnily enough been off grumpy pills for months now...lol. So now you know.

Hi Geoff

Could you rephrase that into plain English please..lol

Willem,
Don't set the drag on your fishing reel too tight to early as you risk breaking off the line before you get one of the above snappers to the boat and have a chance to gaff it!

Geoff

LOL Not being a fisherman I wouldn't know the phrase

Still, I seem to netted afew so far

Cheers

Signman

"Isn't it better to go out there slightly unplanned and explore the places you are going to visit? "- You're not serious. We've heard and read reports of those type.

Good grief. Do you plan everything to the last letter?? Not me. I leave my options open.

Cheers

No worries. Sent you a MM.

Brainwaves man, brainwaves....lol

Dear Mr Desmond Lexicon

Don't mess with Gods.

But acknowledging your inferior status I could possibly help you out by saying that if you pass through Berri, an insignificant little hamlet in the Riverland......there is an old codger I know who lives down by the river. Take the road to the right on a bend in the highway and further down you will come to his place.

He will smother you in donuts and drown you in tea.

But do be careful, he is sly and wily and drives a 50 Series Toyota. On the up side, he has a very sweet wife.

Good luck on your arduous journey to Renmark and say hello to Pete for me.

But I'm wary of old codgers. I can remember the story my mother used to tell me about the old troll who lived under a bridge. Is he a troll or should I visit him.

you bloody dags, bits of wee fell outta me reading these love letters hahahahaha

Pete has left on his Kimberly Kaper. I don't know where he is or which way he went.

Oh dear............ so then you are stuck with the Troll under the bridge...hehehe!

Hi Scoey

No, this post wasn't intended as a wind-up. In fact I haven't done a wind-up for a long time.

Why people have to post sentences such as "We are travellig to Alice Springs from Sydney in June and would like to know what there is to see along the way and where all the good campsites are". These posts are made quite often and are blatantly stupid. Hence the observation and opinion.

Cheers

Hi Willem,

OK you have my agreeance in the post you use as an example. I wouldn't go as far to say they are blatantly stupid - but obviously in your opinion they are. I would say that it wouldn't hurt to throw a reply up that mentions a spot you know and particularly enjoy. If they're hoping for a suggested itinerary they have to be kidding themselves but if from thier post they get a couple of nice spots to visit then all good I say.

I know you don't suffer fools and I try not to as well but there is sometimes a fine line between a goose and someone who would genuinely benfit from the collective millions of kilometres that the users of this forum have most certainly travelled!

Take it easy mate!
Scoey!

Yes, but it relates to how the question is asked.

Read all of the thread for a better insight.

Cheers

Yeah OK, I think you would like people to be more specific, but sometimes thats neither possible or desirable from their point of view.

As an example, I leave in three months for a trip of about 22,000ks. I have done a lot of research, but I know there are little gems of places that I will miss because I haven't come across any info on them. How does one ask one or two specific questions for a trip that big? Some of the gems can only be learnt about from either local knowledge or someone with experience - so - how do I ask a specific question about somewhere that for all intensive purposes doesn't exist to me? A more general question can bring a wider response that may expose a hidden treasure. For some, a 1000k trip is a big one. People need to crawl before they can walk.

As for the weather in central Oz in summer/winter example, you'd be amazed at the number of people that don't know that it can get below zero in summer as well as winter, and winter can get above 40. A similar response can be made for any other example.

Research in itself is a learned skill, not an instinct. One can even get a university degree in research. With experience, they will learn, ask more specific questions and pass on their knowledge to others, and hence our faternity will grow.

Many of the questions are from first time travellers that don't have a clue what to expect. These people may be a bit nervous about posting any question on the forum in the first place and hence, basically "stuff up the question". Similar to a young blokes first date with a hot looking sheila. Give them a bit of latitude. With a bit of luck, they will enjoy the experience/travel and add another voice to the chorus of 4wd/campers opposing track closures.

Vote 1 The Shooters Party this Saturday. :) (in NSW)

Tony

LOL well said Andrew. Ask all the questions you like, someone will answer with the info you require although it may take a while.

ps Just ignore the tetchy old farts. They're OK the majority of the time. Must be something to do with the phases of the moon :)))))

Andrew H

No wasn't you but a collection of posts I felt I needed to be commented on. This has nothing to do with who helps who on the forum or how much lknowledge is imparted.

The crux of the matter is how to specify particular areas of interest not a blanket "We are going from A to B....what is there to see" Hence my LAZY statement.

Gramps

Speak for yourself...lol

Cheers

Struth Jimbo...where ya bin???

Once again and for the umpteenth time....its not what you ask but how you ask it.

So you have gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick once again....lol

Cheers

Have you been on the Glayva two nights in a row? LOL

I've been busy on a little project, working 7 days a week at the moment.

On a more important note, how is Milton going?

Alas I run out of Mrs Al's Xmas Glayva a few weeks ago. Damn good drop it was too.

Milton is exceptionally well. He has overcome most of his health problems after having a prostrate operation and there is a spring in his step again. He turned 70 in January. He recently sold his old FJ47 Landcruiser Troopy(it had been rusting away in the paddock for two years) and is flashing around in a dark blue Toyota Panelvan with decal flames down the side...lol. I shall tell him you asked after him.

Hopefully he will come to the National Gathering to spin that incredible Hat Story again

Cheers

Trucky must be on a date as I see he is Offline in the chatroom