Tyres

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 14:03
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Looking to buy a set of new tyres for our 97 Rodeo Dual Cab (4 x 4). Am looking at Goodyear Wrangler AT and the BF Goodrich equivalent.
Can anyone give me any feed back as to goods and bads with these tyres.
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Reply By: neil - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 21:15

Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 21:15
Have no experience of Goodyear wranglers but have just replaced the BFGoodrich AT's on my GQ Patrol with the same after 55 000kms on Gibb River Road, Mitchell Plateau, Cape Levesque, Tanami & Simpson Deserts, OTL to Cape York etc and did not have a flat, despite some serious looking cuts in the side walls. They still had a few kms in them but am leaving next week on another trip so replaced them early.
Neil
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Follow Up By: Jules - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 18:57

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 18:57
Sounds like they have coped well. The patrol would be a a little heavier than our bus - I will be giving them another look.
Thanks
Mick (Jules old man)
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Reply By: PeteG - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 21:53

Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 21:53
Jules,
You have not advised the sort of running you want to do. I have a GU Patrol wagon and have Bridgestone AT's 265/75R16 LT's (D693's). Doing 75% Blacktop/25% dirt these have done 45k's and are 1/2 worn. So far they handle the wet well. (I got 85k's from the original HT's and still ok for a trailer). When I looked about there were issues with available speed ratings to suit the placard on the vehicle. For me available BFG's did not have an R rating.
IMOP the Wranglers look to have a more aggresive tread and if this is what you want then go for it.
I know Bridgestone had a bad reputation a few years ago, however, since they have addressed the issues. Beware of going the R70's in the same series, I am told they have a thinner sidewall. I imagine that a rodeo would be placarded for LT's anyway.

Not exactly what you asked but my 2 bobs worth.

Regards

Pete G



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Follow Up By: Andrew - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 23:06

Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 23:06
PeteG

Just wondering what pressures you run your Bridgestone A/T's at.???

I have a GU as well with the same tyres except the 265/70's (3.0L T/D)

I've only done 23,000km on mine and the rear are just about buggered. Front are OK but nothing special.

Looking at my tyres they actually appear to concave toward the middle but also seem to wear the most in the middle. Got me stuffed.

Interested to hear what pressures you use.

regards
Andy
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Follow Up By: PeteG - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 23:53

Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 23:53
Andy,
I run the LT's (75's) at 38 Psi and they are true and square.
If you have the 70's - they are a softer sidewall and I think you would need to run them at more like a car pressure. My original 70 HT's (Bridgestone) were run at 30psi and they were still square when I replaced them at 83k's.

The LT tyre is a slightly bigger diam than the 70 (824mm v's 790) I think.
BTW if upgrading you need to get an $8.50 sticker from Nissan to make things strictly legal for the LT's.

The ride has suffered slightly but have a good strong sidewall.

Pete G
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:08

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:08
PeteG

My tyres also have the "693" on the sidewall. Does this mean they are also LT's as yours are??.

I was originally running my tyres around the 30 - 32 psi mark because of the harsh ride I was getting at 38psi. If mine are LT's, does this explain the extreme wear

Anyway, I've been looking at my options for replacement and found my current set to be about 784mm. In the Cooper 265/75's I'd be up to about 800mm

I think I'm looking at getting either the Cooper's of BFG's next.

cheers
Andy
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Follow Up By: PeteG - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:19

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:19
Andrew,

The 70 refers to the profile of the tyre. My LT's are a 75 profile. The 693 is made in both by Bridgestone (being the tread type and D for Brocky's donuts!!). if yours have the 70 ie 265/70 then as you describe you ran them at 38 PSI for a while. This sounds like over inflation which has worn out the centre of the tyre. I ran my original 265/70 H/T's at 30 PSI. The LT's have ben run at 38PSI.

Cheers

Pete G
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:25

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:25
PeteG

There's no letter 'D' before my 693.

I wonder if these are a pre-Donuts version??
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Follow Up By: PeteG - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 16:56

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 16:56
That may be the case - your Bridgestone dealer could help you there. There is also some good information on their website.

Cheers

Pete G
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Follow Up By: Jules - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 19:04

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 19:04
Pete,

The rodeo had Bridgestones on it when I got it and they only did 46,000Ks, which I thought was pretty average as we only did minimal off road initially - and that was reasonable dirt and sand. Did the right things with pressures, rotations and alignments etc.
Looked at the 693 pattern. I think in terms of patterns the Bridgestone and Wrangler are similar. Thanks for your info
Mick
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Follow Up By: Philem - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 23:37

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 23:37
Am wondering if anyone has experience with the Wrangler AT or AT/S. The tread pattern on AT/S looks like it would clean well, but am interested in mileage and noise in relation to BFG?
Phil
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Reply By: Member - Mark - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:42

Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:42
Hi I have a 1999 Rodeo and have Coopers ( Discovery ST tyres ) on standard rims and found them great They have very little road noise and are great in the bush Worth having a look at . They also had a great write up on all 4x4 tyres in 4WD Monthly # 51 March 2003 . They have a 80,000 km Warranty ( with conditions )
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Follow Up By: Jules - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 19:07

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 19:07
Mark,

Read all the articles on tyres after I worked out how to use the website - the Coopers seem pretty popular. Haven't seen them as there I haven't found an agent in Toowoomba as the last dealers lost the agency - so I was told.

Thanks for the info
Mick
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Reply By: nugget - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:02

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 00:02
I have BFG A/T would not buy them again. Half worn at 20000km. Look like they have been through a shredder around edges (very frayed and chunks missing). 95% of my offroading is in sand only with very little on rocks. Cooper ST for me next.
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Follow Up By: Jules - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 19:08

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 19:08
Nugget,
Seems like the Coopers are pretty popular - I just need to get a look at some.

Thanks
Mick
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Reply By: Member - diamond(bendigo) - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 21:46

Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 21:46
i found this number on the cooper web site they should be able to point you in the right direction call Scott toll free on 1 800 681 298. looking foward to easter at jamieson
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Reply By: djm67 - Sunday, Apr 27, 2003 at 00:39

Sunday, Apr 27, 2003 at 00:39
I have a set of Hancook Dynamic RF04's (LT225/75R16) on my 96 model. A dual purpose tyre perhaps aimed at 10% off road (and lets be honest, who actually gets off the black stuff more than that on a regular basis?)

They are good on the road and I have found them to be a reasonable tyre in dirt, loose rock and mud.

They are new so can't give you any indication on their lifespan.

Based on a few trips up thru the state forests around Brisbane with steep hillclimbs (winch has come in bloody handy) in mud and in the dry with loose shale rock, I would buy them again.
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