Camping shower

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Looking at buying a 12 volt gas heated shower,had a look at a Primus, any feedback appreciated
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:03

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:03
I received a flyer from one of the big stores yesterday (think it was Kmart) and they are selling them for about $290. I assume that's a good price?

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Peter from Bare Tracks Adventurers Group - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:12

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:12
Mike....

We bought the Colman version with the gas bottle adaptor.

While it is a little more expensive the smaller all in one package is good for one day trips. Also found it heats very well.

Regards
Kim & Peter (VK2US)


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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:20

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:20
Hi Kim and Peter

I've heard they are pretty good but as all my camping is in remote spots I always have a fire and heat water in a steel bucket over the fire but I thought I would pass the price on to the OP.

Good to see another Amateur on the forum - there are quite a few (15 or 20 at a guess) seems to be a decent proportion of people into ham radio are also into bush stuff.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:26

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:26
Its the Coleman thats on special at KMart. They also stock a Gasmate copy.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:40

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:40
The Coleman is self contained, the Gasmate needs and external cylinder and battery
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Follow Up By: Peter from Bare Tracks Adventurers Group - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:51

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:51
Mike...

I agree there does seem to be a lot of amateurs with 4WDs. Not sure if this is because on the whole we fall into a higher socio economic group or that we just like getting away from the noise of the city. I recall the first time I took a Yaesu FT-707 out of the city and fired it up. 80 meters was so quiet I thought that I'd damaged the radio in transit. It was only when I got a response to a call from Napier (New Zealand) that I realised that it was the noise that was gone not the radio. Given that I live in a house full of x-boxes, PCs and assorted noise generators most of my HF work is done portable with an IC706-MKIIG.

Based on the amount of interest shown by others who have travelled with us or been at the same location when we've operated we are planning to some "F" call classes aimed at 4WD and other outdoor types. We're even looking at doing some of these courses in a portable scenario.

By the way for others reading this we are not looking to replace the existing networks but add to the travel experience. Wouldn't it be nice to use a cheaper radio that you can actually talk home on, or even further a field like the rest of the world?

Regards
Kim & Peter (VK2US)


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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:52

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:52
Couldn't agree more about city noise on 80m! At home (and my house has a lot of open land on 2 sides) I get S8+ noise on 80m - in the bush it's S0! Like you, first time I switched 80m on I thought the set was broken :)

I use a Yaesu FT857D in the bush, like your Icom a great "all in radio" for that application. My antenna consists of an inverted vee cut for 80m and tuned with a MFJ902H for other bands. This setup works very well.

The Foundation Licence

http://www.wia.org.au/foundation/foundation%20licence%20information-v1.pdf

has been a terrific encouragement to bring people into the hobby and would be ideal for many 4WDers - we have had a few people from this forum obtain an F call and also some who have progressed to Standard and Advanced too.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Peter from Bare Tracks Adventurers Group - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:58

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:58
Mike....

For portable stuff I use an AH-4 tuner to a random wire. That way I know I will always have trees that are the correct distance apart ;-)

Regards
Kim & Peter (VK2US)


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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:02

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:02
I'm not familiar with that tuner. What do you do about an earth when you're using a random wire?
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Follow Up By: Peter from Bare Tracks Adventurers Group - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:09

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:09
Bang a metal rod into the ground.....

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:18

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:18
One of those giant corkscrew like things you can buy to tether dogs to works very well too - lots of surface area - and is easy to remove. I looked up the tuner - looks very nice.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:26

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 16:26
I can give you a totally unbiased answer, as I have had both the Primus & the Coleman.
The Primus is smaller but requires external gas connection & 12v power source.
It is a very fiddly thing to light & keep going, in fact after one trip my wife refused to have any more to do with it, so I sold it.

The Coleman system is a bit more bulky, but an absolute breeze to use, it's easy to move from the CT kitchen to the shower tent, & my wife loves it.

Rays Outdoors have them for $300.00 with the shower attachment & carry case, until Easter, probably saves around $180.00.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:23

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:23
Shaker is right about the Primus..... they're fiddly! I have one and have worked out a method of use which suits us fine.... I probably should have bought the Coleman but the rechargeable onboard battery scared me away.... (apart from our Projecta rechargeable jump starter, I have never had any luck with rechargeables.....)

Cheers

Brian

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Reply By: goldiedingdangdo - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:23

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:23
The Coleman is the way to go.
The primus annoyed the shiit out of me and I am designing my own, still 12 months away but lookout.
The best compromise on the market is the Coleman for sure without going to the additonal cost of Twine etc. Keep it simple and mobile is my motto.

Ian
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Reply By: pixiemops - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 23:34

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 23:34
Bought the coleman unit late last year . The first unit we purchased had something wrong with it. The pump kept turning on and off for ages before it finally pumped constantly and the water heated up. Then when turned off the same problem to start it again . I found the shop owner a bit disbelieving at first as he has very few problems with these.

Anyway the next unit have taken it away twice with no problems and it works great and is easy to set up and use.Can use it with a gas bottle or a small throw away one you get from the camping shop. I too was a little worried about the rechargeable but it is easy to get to and take out if it ever needs a new 6v battery installed. Saw the latest primus one at the camping show looked similar to the coleman. Was told that it is very similar with a slightly stronger pump.

cheers
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Reply By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:48

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:48
I bought the Coleman with a view to using it for making beverages for groups. I am now contemplating taking it back, as it doesn't get the water hot enough for even coffee let alone tea. I recyccle the water untill it is at its hottest just as the overtemp light coms on, and the coffee is still too cold.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:37

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:37
Do you push the controller in & turn it past the stop?

That will give you much hotter water than in the normal settings range, I think it bypasses the over temp sensor.

It is OK for black tea or coffee, but not hot enough if you add milk.
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:08

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:08
Yes I do. There is no way I would say it is hot enough for black tea. I had black coffee and thought it too cold. It is supposed to be 71C when it is at max temp, and I guess it may be, but by the time it makes it to your cup from the spout, I find it too cold.

David
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Follow Up By: Peter from Bare Tracks Adventurers Group - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:02

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:02
I was not under the impression that these things were designed to make tea / coffee but to simply provide heated water for showers and washing. Something ours does very well.

Regards
Kim & Peter (VK2US)


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Follow Up By: pixiemops - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 13:17

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 13:17
You do have to push that knob in and hold it in right the way round and not let go. I don't use it for that and agree may not be q
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Follow Up By: pixiemops - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 13:20

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 13:20
I don't use mine for tea/coffee as I agree probably too cold even with holding the knob in past the end stop.

May be hot enough for some. Find the old fashioned duel fuel stove and kettle the go for a tea. Some things these days are still meant to take some time hey.

For showering in the bush instant hot water great no complaints from me there.

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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 15:39

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 15:39
The marketing and the photos on the box sell it as a beverage water provide as well as a shower, as does the instruction manual. BCF told me it was a good beverage maker, but be sure to run CLR thru it first.
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 15:40

Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 15:40
NO problem with it taking time. I used to use those fast boil billies and that's what I will go back to. But for 14 or more people, the kettle and the stove is a pain. I thought this would be better
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