Camper Battery
Submitted: Friday, Apr 06, 2007 at 16:32
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Ian1946
Hi All,
I have dual batteries in my 80 series and have just purchased my first camper trailer. I am pondering the method that I should use to charge the Camper battery. I guess the 3 possibilities
1.Connect the Vehicle and Camper batteries in Parallel, i.e. they both charge together when the vehicle is running. Maybe not a good idea as they may have differing charging needs.
2. Install an isolator between the Vehicle Aux battery and the camper so the charge order is Starting, Vehicle Aux, Camper.
3. Install a second isolator connected to the starting battery and charge the Camper battery independently of the Aux battery.
Option 3 looks the best to me, any comments, have I missed an obvious shortcoming somewhere.
Thanks
Ian
Reply By: Notso - Friday, Apr 06, 2007 at 17:53
Friday, Apr 06, 2007 at 17:53
Best option I reckon is an Arrid Twin Charge.
This takes voltage supplied from the vehicle and ups it to full charge and manages charging of trailer battery.
About $240 dollars and needs 20 amp supply from vehicle.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Apr 06, 2007 at 17:55
Friday, Apr 06, 2007 at 17:55
Option 4 is better.
Leave your existing setup as is, assuming you have an existing Isolator in the dual battery setup. This will ensure your starting battery gets first priority in charging needs from the alternator.
Connect a heavy duty cable from the positive and negative terminals of your auxiliary battery with an in-line fuse on the positive wire and run to the rear of your vehicle, terminating in an Anderson connector.
On your camper, install a cable which connects to the vehicle's Anderson connector and terminate adjacent to the Camper battery with an "Arrid Twin Charge" unit, which in turn is connected to the remote battery. This setup allows for a lower input voltage that often occurs from a long cable run (voltage drop) and will boost and control the voltage going into the camper battery.
Both the vehicle auxiliary battery and the remote Camper battery will be charged at the same time by the vehicle's alternator.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:43
Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:43
The Arid Twin charge would be my choice.
I have used this system in 2 caravans to charge the vans battery and have found it to be reliable.
1st van system was in for 4 years when it was sold and the battery a deep cycle wet cell lead acid job was in good nick.
The current van is now approaching 6years old with the arid twin charge system and the AGM battery is still going strong.
Having said that these battery's were never discharged below 50% capacity.
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Reply By: drivesafe - Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 06:32
Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 06:32
Hi Ian1946, for the best results, start by running thick cable from the vehicle’s auxiliary battery to the camper battery and then you will save a bundle because you won’t need any thing like a step up inverter as the vehicles alternator will be able to charge the battery as quick or quicker, depending on how large the camper battery is.
Next, with the thicker cable installed, you won’t need to add an extra dual battery controller and while you are parked, if you have the vehicle and camper connected, you can shear the camper’s power requirements between the camper battery and the auxiliary battery giving you a longer operating time between charges.
Here’s another option that can keep you camper battery charged while you are camping. If you have a battery in the camper then you need to keep it serviced while the camper is at
home and not in use. The best way to do this is with a small 2 stage battery charger. If you have this size charger and have or can buy a suitable sized 12v to 240v inverter to power power the battery charger, then while you are camped and if you do some driving during the day, leaving the camper at the
camp site, when you get back from your drives, hook the inverter up to the vehicle’s auxiliary battery and power the battery charger up to charge the camper’s battery over night.
One of the advantages of this set up is that you don’t even need to park close to the camper, just hook up the inverter and run a standard 240 vac extension cord from the inverter to the battery charger, which means you can have the battery charger set up permanently in the camper for use at
home or while camping.
This set-up works out a lot cheaper than having to get all the other gadgets and has a number of advantages the other options don’t.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 00:51
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 00:51
.........Ditto.........
Start from the Cranking battery with the thicker cable to the first Aux battery and continue on from there.
Use the maximum size cable that will fit the Anderson plug, it may cost you a few $$$ more but your the person who will enjoy it's benefits.
Remember the weakest link in any chain is always the first to break...
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 13:13
Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 13:13
Hi Ian
I have put a few drawings up on my site.
Have a look here F.A.Q. it may help.
Regards
Derek.
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:21
Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:21
Hey Derek,
I have referred some people to the products you sell on E-bay and they are telling me that they are still waiting for their purchases to arrive in the mail ?
Approx: ordered over 2 weeks ago?
Now they are getting up me !
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Follow Up By: Ian1946 - Tuesday, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:16
Tuesday, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:16
Hi Derek,
Thanks for the diagrams. I have 2 questions:
1. The Camper battery is deep cycle, and my aux battery is a marine battery so it is a "stand by" starting battery should it be needed. As the camper and trailer batteries are in parallel would this cause a problem with charging rates etc.
2. What relay would you recommend to disconnect the Anderson plugs so that when stopped, the 2 batteries are isolated, and no low life can short out the vehicle battery when parked.
Thanks
Ian
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Follow Up By: drivesafe - Tuesday, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:56
Tuesday, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:56
Hi Ian, if the installation is done correctly, there should be circuit breakers ( NOT FUSES ) at each battery’s positive terminal and this would automatically protect your entire system from shorting out, both deliberately or accidentally.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:29
Tuesday, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:29
agree with drivesafe, i use auto resetting breakers at both ends.
re the two batteries, I don't know if those two different types would be such an issue as I believe marines are a hybrid between starting and deep cycle, but I would not parallel a new battery with one that was say 18mths or more old, although i am sure this gets done quite a lot :)
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:29
Saturday, Apr 07, 2007 at 22:29
Hi Ian
I have had a note on the listings and on my website that I am on holidays till the 10th.
I just got back today.
All post will be done over the next few days and go out on Tuesday.
I was at the factories packing our containers. We have 3 container due over the next 3 weeks full of goodies.
Thank You for the referrals.
Regards
Derek.
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