Cheap sustainable diesal supply

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:27
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Any boby done any reading on diesal trees,apparently they produce diesal in a similar manner to rubber trees,just type in diesal tree to google for more details,if correct why arent we growing these?????????
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Reply By: Robin - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:48

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:48
Hi Pepper

Don't know about diesel trees , but I do own a cork tree.

The problem with the rubber trees is that the rubber never comes out with a mud terrain pattern.

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Reply By: Pezza (Bris) - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:54

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:54
Not sure about the diesel tree's, but my petrol bushes are goung great guns, planted them in an old F i t c h can and they've been producing twice as much as I can use ever since.
I pour the excess petrol onto my rubber tree's that provide me my tyres, have one mud terrain tree, one all terrain tree and am working on a comp tread one now.
:-)))))

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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:00

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:00
good to see a sense of humor in your replies,but ill have the last laugh when my trees grow up ....lol
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:22

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:22
Takes about 6 million + yrs for oil to be made so I hope you still have a laugh by then !!!!!!!

You forgot its only Wednesday NOT Friday.... two more days till the funnies !!!!
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:33

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:33
Give 'em heaps pepper2. Shame on all you doubting Thomases etc etc

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Reply By: pepper2 - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:41

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:41
See i told you blokes to look it up now what do you say......
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:01

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:01
I don't know about the tree, but some farmers are using part of their Canola crop to become self sufficient with bio-diesel. There is still processing involved, including getting the seed crushed and oil extracted by an outside source, then the processing requires daily attention. They believe they are coming out in front compared with purchasing conventional diesel - but they are using large quantities for the cropping of their farms. Like Robin says - it won't just happen because it grows on trees.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:12

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:12
Are those Diesel Trees, in the same Botanical family as the Spagetti Tree ?
Might go dowm to the local Garden Supplier, and ask him.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:24

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:24
Yeah I planted Spaghetti trees omce, but only the holes came up.
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Follow Up By: Pezza (Bris) - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 18:58

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 18:58
My donut tree's did the same !!
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:17

Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:17
Did you ever see the BBC documentary on the European Spaghetti Harvest. It was first played on April the 1st and was a classic.

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Reply By: howesy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:57

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 15:57
australia population around 25 million, say 8 million of those drive cars and 3 million of those are diesel well with the yearly yield of each tree that would take around 300,000,000 (3 hundred million) to run them so lets get planting.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:14

Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:14
Some one did a check, and if we turn all the world's crops over to vege oil producing crops, and used all that to make biodiesel, we still wouldn't have enough to replace dino diesel!
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 16:46

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 16:46
Am still waiting for those $1 coins I planted in the backyard to grow. Looked the other day and thought I could see the edge of a new note, a $500 bill. Alas it was only the corner of a dvd player I planted just after they came out............. :)
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Reply By: D-Jack - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:02

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:02
I was listening while reading the link for a while until it said -

"But even if it is left too long, it thickens into copaiba oil, which is used in alternative medicines and fetches around $100 a litre in the United States."

Hmm, $100 US per litre or save $1.50 in diesel cost.....So either use your diesel or else you will only get US $100 if it goes old in a few months!
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:32

Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:32
bummer if you park your wagon up for a while?
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Reply By: Plantman - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:11

Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:11
Do a search on Hongi tree.

My 90 year old Grandad has scripted a plan that'll solve our problems by planting millions of these trees. It's difficult for him to get people to listen to him but he battles on even to the point of getting his paper in person handed to Arnold Schwarzenegger's personal mailroom emplyee. It's inspiring.

I reckon my Grandad's definitely got some merit to his plight and I one day I'll be able to pull his paper out and say "see, he was right".

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Reply By: pepper2 - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:29

Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:29
well i guess you can lead people to cheap fuel but you cant open their minds easier to open their wallets
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 19:57

Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 19:57
Thats why only the few become weathy
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: robak (QLD) - Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 09:45

Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 09:45
Pepper

Just because it grows on trees it doesn't mean it's cheap.

Each mature tree produces about 40-60 litres per year. So an average person would use about 2 trees a week (more when touring). That's 104 trees to keep you self sufficient. They mature after 4 years and you need 400 trees to start with and cull them over the years to leave only the 104 good ones, (from which you make more).

So, there's the cost of the land, irrigation, herbicide, insecticide, labour during initial 4 years, mainatance, oil cultivation and processing, and the tax man will also slug you his share as with bio-diesel.

Now, although each tree may give 50 litres per year, I don't think it's all in one go. More then likely, it will be one litre per week per tree. So to collect your fuel for the week you'll have to tap into all 100 trees EVERY WEEK then do the processing if it is needed.

If you can do all this for under $1 a litre you'd be doing very well.

I am guessing that for this to be profitable you would need to have a massive operation, like a few thousand trees and this would be your full time job.

Money may grow on trees but it's more likely to be 1c coins then $100 bills.

R.
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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 10:58

Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 10:58
Robak,thankyou for your considered reply,i was hoping to open discussion on the subject
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