Cooper STT's , Good Value ????
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 17:28
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Macca_GU
Was pricing a 2nd set of tyres today purley for off road trips for the GU IV, with the 3 inch lift figured 315/75R16 would be the go. Looked at the Procomps, Mickey Thompsons, all around $370 mark. Nearly fell over when I was quoted $550 for the Cooper STT's. Has anyone tried these and would they pay that price again. Are they really THAT much better ?
Cheers....Greg
Reply By: Exploder - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 18:13
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 18:13
Mate use and I like Cooper Tyres, but I wouldn’t be caught dead paying that much for em unless I had money to burn.
Go with the Mickey T’s or pro comps.
Cause NO the STT's are not that much better IMO
Cheers.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 19:34
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 19:34
It depends on what your idea of OFF ROAD is. Off road they are good.
My experience with Cooper STT's 265/75/16 OFF TRACK is woeful.
I have $1750 worth of tyres tyres sitting in my shed with 90% tread on them and with stuffed sidewalls. Not much use to anyone, they are.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: equinox - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 19:49
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 19:49
They'll be alright for the Gibson though won't they Willem? Fair enough Great Victoria and scrubby areas I can understand. The Gibson's a little more spacious and uncramped.
I was quoted $328 per tyre (STT's) last week in Subiaco for 265/75/R16's. I think I will get them just before my trip in June as I still have to go to work and fit in the
carpark. I already hit the Max-Headroom bar and the 75's will raise the 4WD by 13mm.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:17
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:17
Equinox
I staked 4 tyres on the GQ and 3 on the trailer doing the run from
Warri Site to Constance Headland.
Previously I staked 5 tyres on the run west of
Mount Winter,
Cleland Hills.
I would say that the most likely thing is that I had to run low tyre pressures in the very sandy sections of the Gibson and that the Turpentine just pressed through the paper thin sidewalls. Maybe if one ran the tyres at 40psi in the desert one would sustain less punctures but then then you compromise traction.
Off track in the Simpson I had no problems.
Cheers
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:13
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:13
I have STTs in 285/75R16s and am pretty certain that $550 is a pretty high watermark - although I've not tried buying the 315/75's. Try another dealer.
Mine are in pretty good nick after 43,000 of which about 50% is highway, 40% off-road/sand, and 10% off track and mountain goat stuff.
I have staked one of them (sidewall) on mallee root in the Simpson whilst shooting the
Simpson Desert Cycle Challenge ... just prior I had been going flat out along a station track trying to catch a cyclist who took a wrong turn, as
well as a bit of off-track work - not surprising really, but it was repairable.
They are the right compromise for me.
Cheers
Andrew.
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Reply By: Robin - Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:19
Wednesday, Apr 11, 2007 at 20:19
No way Macca
My 1500km old 255/85/16 Bighorns out perform set of 315 cooper stt (old style) over last week at $240 each and are taller more aggressive and no noiser - and as bonus are thinner and easier on
suspension
Write ful report soon
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Robin - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:41
Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:41
Note - I mean taller than 315 set I compared which are 15in and not taller than 315/75/16
Robin Miller
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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:04
Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:04
Just for your imformation if the Coopers are too expensive, you can get Hercules Dayton M/Ts which are made in the Cooper factory and are the same pattern as Cooper STTs and at half the price a good deal.
If you like Coopers.
Baz.
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Reply By: Member - John L (WA) - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:23
Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:23
wouldnt touch em with a barge pole !!
not at any price !!
Coopers guarantee is not worth the paper its written on and is only valid on city roads.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:39
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:39
Correction: only valid if you purchase them in the city.
Of course the statutory warranty remains and for both fit for purpose and their mileage guarantee when sold in the city, the Australian Cooper distributors stand by their product in my experience.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:31
Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:31
Obviously he did not want to sell you a set of big Coopers.
Check all the posts, I seen a new set get chopped up on the outback roads.
Not too sure how they are performing now
Give
Laura & Nathan (NSW member--- Diver 1 ) an email to see theirs are travelling 8 months later.
Cheers Mate
Bucky
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Reply By: Macca_GU - Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 17:25
Thursday, Apr 12, 2007 at 17:25
Thanks all for the input. I'm thinking I might have a crack at the Mickey Thompson Baja Claws.
Cheers....Greg
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 00:14
Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 00:14
The lack lateral grip on side slopes.. look at the tread will show you that.
What area are you driving in?? if your in Vic, Swampers or Simex Centipedes are pretty much the go and in most muddy climates..
If your in Qld, or rocky areas, the Bias Claws get a good wrap as do boggers and others.
Plenty of good tires out there, also look at the Maxxis Mudzilla, or the Micky Thompson MTZ..
but if they are a second set of tires for weekends only, then go the Centipedes.
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Follow Up By: Macca_GU - Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 00:44
Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 00:44
G'day Truckster, I'm down your way I believe, SE suburbs Melb ? Are we still considered a muddy climate.....lol. was thinking the same with the claws, But don't really go out looking for mud, not into the Gembrook kinda stuff. Do you know who sells the Mudzilla ? saw them once looked ok. A mate just got the MTZ's seem pretty good, as long as your not in the Murray Sunset doing
border track like we did over Easter :-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 23:35
Friday, Apr 13, 2007 at 23:35
Yea, if ya going to get weekenders, get Centipedes.
Yup, down langy way.
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:40
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:40
STTs that size are retail $388. Your dealer probably is not a Cooper dealer hence the better price on the others - he has to buy them at near retail. Interesting that in SA and NT, Mickey Thompsons come from the same tyre distributor (smile).
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