2007 Nissan Patrol 3L

John, as has been said to you on several occasions, you are a bloody moron and have no idea what you are talking about.

End of Story

Chris

HA HA HA!!! Go Chris & Debbie !

Axle.

Been smokin whacky terbaccy?

"END OF STORY".....yep.....EXACTLY !!! a story. Are you available for kids parties ????

Perhaps you should check this site out before calling someone a moron

http://www.motorsm.com/complaints/default-2.asp#N

A lot of small diesel owner who aren't happy

goingplatinum - you keep quoting 'auctions' as the value of vehicles. Most people here use Red Book - which is also the standard for vehicle valuations in the trade and well as in the insurance industry. Vehicle auctions account for only a small proportion of vehicles sales and by their nature, chance of the day can bring very different results - not a just guide to value at all.

Hi Motherhen

Well when i went to Toyota to trade the Nissan 3 liter in they said all it is worth is what they can get from the Auction's.

After talking to the Auction's myself same story No One Want's Them looks like i am going to lose about $35000 on the deal i should never have brought it in the first place.

Regards John

goingplatinum - while you keep bagging Nissan and annoying most other members with unsubstantiated and outrageous statements, you have finally admitted to owning a Nissan.

Come clean: What year and model do you have? What happened to it? Is it not is working order hence not saleable, except in an auction of wrecked vehicles?

Most people with 3 litre Patrols have had good runs, although there have been a number of reported similar failures; enough to indicate there is a problem with the 2000 - 2001 series.

There are many other ways to sell a vehicle (if it is in working order) than auctions, which may be used as a last resort.

Nissan Patrol 3 litres are still good value – even from the most maligned year; 2000.

Examples using values from Redbook (the industry standard):

Nissan Patrol ST series II 3 litre td new in year 2000 $46,990
Current value range private sales $20,000 - $24,800
Loss (by depreciation) if selling at upper limit $22,190

Toyota Landcruiser GLX 100 series new in year 2000 $64,999
Current value range private sales $26,000 - $30,600
Loss (by depreciation) if selling at upper limit $34,399

The person with the Cruiser has lost heaps more than the person with the Patrol.

goingplatinum; If you’ve lost $35,000 and still have your Nissan, your way in front than if you’d bought a Cruiser.

Motherhen,

I don't doubt your redbook figures, he is $12,000 better off with the Nissan.

So where has his other $23,000 dollars of 'value' gone?

Matt.

Hi Matt

Without knowing the year or condition of his Patrol - we can't say what value it would be. If in keeping with my example, if it is a year 2000 in good going order, it has upper value of $24,800 - upper value being used in my demonstration.

Meanwhile my example was that Nissans have proved better value than Cruisers on both purchase price and resale price. Not comparing anything else about the vehicles of course, just price in this exercise.

He is a true 3L Nissan admirer but does this occasionally for a bit of a windup. It is his way of keeping a thread interesting as he seems to get a bite or two from the other camp.
Cheers Graeme

I agree with you for sure, if he had said 100,000 instead of 20,000 he might have had some cred!

fisho64

You are actually aware of a Nissan doing 100000 klm = That being 60000 miles there was a time when that sort of mileage was considered Not Even Run In.

So what your saying is is now Acceptable for a motor to be considered Run Out at that mileage ?

Had i have said that 100000 klm i would have had some credibility.

And your mechanical expertise would be ?

Regards John

1/You are actually aware of a Nissan doing 100000 klm = That being 60000 miles there was a time when that sort of mileage was considered Not Even Run In.

that being around the distance when the failures have occurred

2/So what your saying is is now Acceptable for a motor to be considered Run Out at that mileage ?

No

3/Had i have said that 100000 klm i would have had some credibility.

see above

4/And your mechanical expertise would be ?

diesel mechanic, marine engineer on tugs, ships and oil rig tenders, Toyota owner.

I am sad to say that while I am on the side of your views in general, I also have to agree with some of the personality assessments expressed of your attitude.

My Attitude

How do you think i feel i have a Nissan 3 liter that has caused me no end of Drama.

No one wants to Buy It

Trade in is worthless unless if i buy another Nissan out of the frypan into the fire there.

Toyota will only give me what the Auctions will give them and there not interested in them as no one wants them at the Auctions.

I brought the thing to go around Australia and i am afraid to go around the block.

I know what you are thinking i should have brought a Toyota Dont I Know It :(

Thanks for all the response Folks.

goingplatinumcomau : What Gu Series are your Patro 3L ? Series II ??

What I am really appreciate the answer is

1. Has the latest 3L common Rail engine been proven in other Model ? or in other countries. HOw good this engine is , probably need to wait for a few years.

Is Nisson Patrol good value ? it is ! No doubt about that.

I almost purchased a 2007 Prado GXL Auto last week. Freind of mine purchased one Prado GXL Manual with similar options last June 2006, he paid about $52000 incl. GST. For 2007 Prado GXL, with extra after Market Leather (say $3000) and Automatic ($3000). I expect to pay $52,000 + $3000 + $3000 = $58,000. But the same dealer said the new GXL is $7000 more expensive ! I was quoted $63,000. My God ! MInd you. In the past 12-month, Aust $ -- Japan Yen exchange rate has gone stronger ~10%, so the import goods should be 10% cheaper.

It is why I turn back to this Nissan Patrol and post this question. I intent to keep the car and have no intention to tow. So 3L should be enough for me. I just need a reliable car in the bush.

Grandpa Joe,

I can't believe that dealer would try and pull the aircon line. I can't think of too many vehicles that would come from the manufacturer without aircon fitted. It strikes me as a cynical exercise to try and lower the advertised cost (priced from only $XX), and then screw you with extras to get the price back above that advertised.

It would be a good exercise to order one without the aircon. I suspect that they would backpedal, because I'll bet they don't even come like that.

Maybe they would throw in the AM/FM radio for free!

Matt.

Matt,
If you can't think of a new model vehicle that comes with A/Cond as an add on option, I can!!

It's the new Toyota 70 series, A/con is a $2000+ option
But then that's Toyota for you

Bugger!

Disco

Which model hilux is it that costs over $55k and doesn`t have air-con? Thought the sr5 was top of the line with everything std.

Disco,

I'm not doubting that you will pay extra. My question was do they even manufacture these things without the aircon physically fitted to them?

I honestly don't know the answer to that, but it would be interesting to see if you could get one if for nothing else than to call their bluff.

Matt.

One of the guys from work ordered a Prado a few years ago and on purpose didnt tick the air con option to see what would happen, He reckoned the sales guy was having kittens !

He said it was to lower the list price of the car to dodge some import tax ?

It would kill them though , they would have to take it off .

Glenn.

Matt its cheaper for dealer tax wise to have a new car without standard A/C and other options and add them into price later

Robin Miller

How nice for a change- a balanced response!
My mates (2003 model) has towed a heavy van right round oz (and lots more!!) and hasn't missed a beat or had a problem.
Well said!

Comfort was the reason I didn`t buy one other than that I would have been sold.

That's funny Stu-k, I have had both a 100 series cruiser and my current Patrol and it is the Patrol with the most comfy seating position for me. All about what suits each buyer I think. The cruiser's suspension made the ride bearable but I still got KAB seating to add bits to my cruisers seat to help make it OK for long distance driving.

Having said that even I would be sceptical about handing over a great wad of cash to another Nissan dealer again. Not the vehicle's fault (mine's a 4.2) but the dealer backup service that stinks in my opinion.

Good luck to those with good 3lt's and I have my fingers crossed that they stay this way for many years to come.
Regards, Trevor.

It was the lack of legroom that was the killer, even on the test drive I couldn't`t wait to get out of it.
I looked at modifying the seat but the sheer distance it had to be moved back was not viable.

Cya
Stu

Stu-k - My husband is tall, and has more leg room in the Patrol than in our 1996 Cruiser (the previous shape Cruiser had more leg room). We choose the Patrol over the Cruiser mainly because of comfort for bad backs - best vehicle we've had for a long drive. We went to Perth on Thursday in an older Camry sedan - ouch - i was reminded after 15 minutes driving what a backache it is.

OK - the bigger motor of the Cruiser may put them in front of the 3 litre Patrol in the towing stakes, but that isn't a fair comparison. I haven't found the gearboxes in Cruisers reliable - gearbox and transfer case problems seem common.

Strange....I always found the cruisers to have more leg room. The 06 patrol my knees were nearly touching the dash! I am 6'4" and 100kg and have back problems to I think its apart of being tall :(
I ended up buy a Jeep for legroom and comfort, was a great thing but I have had to recently sell it to buy a ute( new dual cab hilux) for work which as soon as I get it the seats are coming out to fit longer rails.
I wish they would make cars for tall people, makes me sick to spend $50+k and have to rip out the seats!

Cheers
Stu

Hi Stu - my Rooster is about your height (or was - has lost a bit with the back surgery and fusion), but quite a bit weightier than you. My younger son is a bigger lad - likewise always used to be a Toyota man, but has chosen Patrols for his last 2 vehicle changes due to reliability, and he fits in without complaint. Mind you, now we have the big F250, my husband should have plenty of room! It gives a comfy ride too. Room to sleep on the tray too.