Tyre difference

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 19:39
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Evening all,
Very simple one, Was given 3 tyres today from a mate who updated for a trip. 2 x265/70/16 and 1x 275/70/16. Add that to my new spare 265/70/16 and I have a set, Well 1 odd one. Now does the small difference in size prove a problem? I understand bout diff wind ect, was just wondering if the 7mm difference in diameter will cause problems or could I absorb the difference with out damage?

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Sarg - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:44

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:44
Depends how worn they are, but I would probably run it in the front lhs if you haven't got constant 4x4. Put the figures into this & see what you reckon & make the decision for yourself. Otherwise ,don't be so miserable & get a full set of the same size.

www.1010tires.com/
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:53

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:53
I love how people always have to give a opinion on someones personality with replies here. So Some one offers you 3 tyres worth around $250 each for nix with only 10% wear on them you would say "no thanks?". Anyway thanks for the link to the site it pretty much makes it clear its not a good idea. So I only have to buy one tyre to make a new set, I'm not that tight!!

Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:50

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:50
Stef are you sure yours are 265/70 and not 265/75's?
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 23:12

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 23:12
yep 265/70's just checked!! got me wondering! LOL

Cheers stefan
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:47

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:47
Just doing some maths and I reckon your 7mm difference would equate to somewhere around 80 meters difference if you drove 100km. The average 850mm circumfrerence tyre rotates 117,647 times in 100km, more for smaller circumference tyres. That's a fair bit of wind up. EVERY DAY. On a two wheel drive you may get away with it but when the hubs are in or in a constant 4x4, wind up would be occurring.

I am in no way a mechanic to give sound advice, but my maths tells me it would not be an option FOR ME. Are you in Brissy? if so drop me a line as I have been keeping 3 old cruiser tryes for a trailer one day but that looks like it will never eventuate so the three, fair (maybe 25%, been a while since I seen them), 275 70 16's may help you complete a set. Not for free but I am reasonable.

Cheers Trevor. dieseldrifter at bigpond dot com
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:57

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:57
Thanks Trevor, But in Sydney. I think I will off load the 275/70/16 as I have 3 of the 265's.

Anyone wanna swap a 275/70/16 Bridgestond Duller 693 for a 265 in the same tyre? with good tread? mine has about 95% on it.

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: hiab - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:52

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:52
dont put the different ones on the back if you have an lsd.
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:59

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:59
Cheers Mate, the small difference makes a big difference as the KM'S pile up. I wasn't keen on the idea just wanted some others opinions on the subject thanks.

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Gronk - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:42

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:42
Whack em on the front !!!

You will never know the diff !!! Constant 4x4 maybe ?? but otherwise, just do it eh !!!!
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:14

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:14
well the patrol does pull to the left a bit, wack it on the left front as someone else said and cancel it out!! lol

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:45

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:45
its funny how people will put links up for web sites that tell you not to do it because of diff wind ect.
what a load of crap ill give you 2 exaples of why you shoul not worry about it.
(1)every time you turn a corner be it front or rear one wheel will always turn more than the other so theres no problem with 7 mm.
(2)you buy a new/used car with new tyres you r running around and there nearly worn out geez ive got a puncture ill have a look at the spare oh my god its a brand new tyre im pretty sure its more than 7mm bigger in diameter than the ones iv got on the car and i remember reading on exporeor that 7mm is no good for diff wind ect what do i do.
what do you do?
you fit the tyres you got for nix thats what you do
how often do you read about people on a trip that have a blow out ?
they dont go to a tyre shop and ask for a half worn tyre no they buy a new one and dont have any problems.
cheers mate
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:57

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:57
".....i remember reading on exporeor that 7mm is no good for diff wind ect what do i do.
what do you do? ....."

You jack up the spare until it is just touching the road, then you run the car and slowly (very very slowly) drop the jack until you have matched the radius, diameter AND circumference of the spare tyre to the one on the other end of that axle. If your spare is SMALLER than the other tyre you should undertake this procedure on the other tyre of the axle.

Or carry two matched spares.

Or invest in the TWEEL
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Reply By: Member - Dedalus (SA) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:03

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:03
I'm not good in math but .... WHAT ABOUT YOU INSURANCE? My insurance will cover my car only if I'm using 4 identical tyres (in size) ....
I will think twice before driving a 4wd with 3 tyres (same diameter) + 1 different in size ....
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Reply By: Russel & Mary - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:07

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:07
Stefan, aren't the tyres all the same diameter? The 265 or 275 is the width. Rus.
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:12

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:12
nope different.........265/70/16..... 265=width 70=70% of the width 16=rim size
So 265x0.7=185.5mm side wall hight. 275x0.7=192.5 side wall hight.

Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: Russel & Mary - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:21

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:21
I apologise, you are correct. The 70 refers to the aspect ratio of width/wall height.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:12

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:12
The difference in diameter is about 14mm. (10mm x 0.7 x2) which works out at about 1.8%. Up to you. You'll only do damage when 4wd is engaged in bitumen, which should be never. Its technically illegal, so I'd trade the 275 and buy another two 265/70's so I had a spare as well.
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:18

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:18
would make more sence, trade it and buy one as I have 2 good terra tracs in 265/70. Keep them as spares and have 4 dullers on the car. not a problem to buy one and have a new set of tyres for around $250.

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:53

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:53
Gday Stefan

I wouldn't run different tyres, I ran one of a different brand for a short while with the same design size - (all 265/75) and the car handled like a pig - it was on the back, so maybe the front would be better ?? although I was always told the best 2 tyres you have should be on the front. Sounds like good advie to me, but there are plenty of contradicting opinions around, most of which have some merit

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: GQ_TUFF - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 10:05

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 10:05
G'day Andrew, how's the car going? I replaced my water pump and thermostat the other day, in the process I noticed the thermo housing was cracked, replaced it and all water issues seem to have gone??? I know what I replaced should have no effect but it has??? Anyway I will sell or swap the bigger one for one of the same size and have a full set for very little cash!

Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 20:58

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 20:58
Gday Stefan, the car seems to be OK - had a buggered MAF sensor - that solved the surging/missing, and seems to have stopped the mystery bubbles in the coolant, although haven't had it back for long, on the Gold Coast at the moment, flying to Darwin tomorrow, then driving the commadoor to KNX, first test of the coolant bubbles/loss will be wednesday on the way to the mine.

Glad to hear yours seems to be ok, I think mine may be as well.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 15:12

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 15:12
I thought that it was simply illegal to have different tyre sizes on the same axle. Doing so would void insurance in case of an accident.
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