Navaras

nnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo but then again I am selling my 06 d22

A mate of my friend had a D22 and then got a D40, orh mate the problems this guy had was unbelivable.....said he would not buy another one again.

The above is a reply you will proberly get, We have a new hilux and love it and there is no doubt that the D40 is as good and a bit better and bit worse in some places then the Hilux.

The suspension in all new 4x4's and future ones is always going to be more designed for the road then extreme off roading, very few people use there 4x4's to do extreme off roading so why would Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan and a few others build a vehicle that appeals to only a small market.

Spend $1500 to $2000 for a realy good suspension kit, get some good tyres and you have arealy good off and on road 4x4.

All long wheel base 4x4's have a large turning circle, with the Hilux we just park somewhere with abit more room....check the turning circle for a Holden VZ Commodore Wagon.

The power issue is a big concern, in all the mags that reviewed the D40 they praised the engine....how smooth....how powerful...how much like a petrol engine....etc. but after a while they started to say things like ....lacks low down torque.....you have to drive it harder.....you have to rev it more when towing...etc.

You have to remember it is only 2.5lts.

Only time will tell how good a new 4x4 is and choose what ever you feel comfortable with, every one has a differant story why the brought this on or didn't buy that one.

And as for the D22 or D40 go the D40 such a hugh improvment over the D22 but not on off road abilities but room, comfort and power.

Or buy a Triton or Hilux ...... or if your game and stupid one of those Indian built one or a Musso

Regards Richard

Sorry Guys I disagree with you !

I got an 03 Navara Twin Cab Ute, with the diesel motor, and at first I hated the thing, just like you lot.
I was not a believer of " turbo lag ", till I had the Navara.,,

I asked the local Nissan Agent to fix the problem, and promptly got a lecture on how to drive a Diesel. Now this angered me as I had driven Concrete Agitator's and tip trucks in the past.
I did not get too angry ( just swore a little ) but I did take it to another garage, that had a Dyno-tune, and guess what fixed,,and it still goes like a rocket ship ,,,, that was 3 years back, and before we went up the Desert this year, had it back on the Dyno, ( just in case thing ) and it had held its adjustment perfectly.
Did get the suspension fixed up this year after we came home, but I was prepared for that, as most vehicles I know of get sag, after 2 or 3 trips up in the desert, but I do agree that their suspension package should be seriously looked at.
Don't worry either , its not only nissan ones that play up , a mate's Toyota 3.0 Hilux ute sprinha fully "shyte" themselves, at 20 k and when he rang up Mr " Tojo " he got " duck-shoved " too

As for the turning circle, well thats only 10 minutes on your behalf and the problem is fixed, I did mine, and my 1989 Rodeo too, when I got it ,,

Cheers Mate
Bucky

I don't own one, but I do drive one for work. IMHO they are a horrible, horrible vehicle. And I drive a Land Rover!!!!!

Just for the record I have also driven 'Cruiser, Prados, Patrols, Pajeros, Rolluxes, Landys, Rodeos and Jackaroos over the same country and rate the Navara as the worst.

Within my mates, 3 have got D22's who all had landcruiser 60 series in last 2 years and one is very happy and 2nd is happy now that he has ditronic fitted and 3rd doesn't care much about power.

All have been good reliable vehicles so far with only real complaint being the 3lt 110kw engines lack of off idle torque.

Robin Miller

ive got a d40,auto im happy with it tows well,good economy like anything you have to know how big and clearance off road,i got it over a hilux ,personal preference,toyota mechanic for over 20 years...

Have an 07 twin cab Navara, done 7500 km....the jury is still out on fuel economy. We have a tandem Regent pop top caravan which is 18Ft in length. We recently went to Pambular from Gippsland ( it had done 2300Km when we started out) , fuel consumption down..... wait for it... 19.7 km/100ltr and back 17.2. We had the foot off all the way and 100km /hour was tops.

Traveling up and down to Melbourne on round trip of aprox 400km averages about 11.7 ltr /100km and that is sitting on 100km.

It is very smooth, rides like a sedan and is comfortable to drive.

The down side is, fuel consumption I suspect if you want to cruise at 110 km/hour, no room in back seat for adult passengers, a lot of blind spots, typical lousy Nissan standard lights.
We haven't had it off road yet so can't comment.

Trust this helps a little

Thomo

Bucky, big difference between the Navara 3 litre '03 that you refer to with the ZD 30, 2953cc engine and the '07 Navara 2.5 litre model ST-X that I commented on.

Totally different animal