3lt Petrol GQ

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 11:29
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Hi all, I have seen a 3lt petrol GQ for sale of 96 vintage and I was curious as to the inherent problems associated with this vehicle. I presume it would be a bit of a slug but I am used to that with my 4.2 GU (to a certain degree). The thing that has caught my eye is it has a genuine 30000km on the dial with books as well.

Give me all the gory bad news on this truck please.
Thanks Trevor.
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Reply By: Jimbo Vic - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 11:46

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 11:46
Trev,

I had one for three years. Just loved it.

A bit of a slug but performs OK it you are prepared to give it a rev.

The motors have been known to commonly get 500,000 km. It was a superbly designed motor and hailed as a gem at the time. Pity Nissan didn't fit it with fuel injection as it did to Skylines and Commodores.

They did have a problem of a bit of a plate in the carby coming loose and falling into the motor, causing an unpleasant meeting of valves and pistons. Still, at 300,000, it's either been fixed or will never fall off.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:05

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:05
Thanks Jim but the one I am looking at has only 30 000km. Not 300 000km.

Still good news about the longevity but I will need to give it a real good run to see if the power will disturb me too much.

Thanks Trevor.
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Reply By: Camoco - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 11:53

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 11:53
Hi Trevor,
I have 360K on mine and it has been nothing but great. You will get baggers but they are fine vehicles in their own right. It has much more still left in it.

If you are anticipating fitting a bigger engine with the thought of better performance, you will also need to replace the gearbox and diff centres as these are different from the bigger engined GQ's.

I have had no issues (other than a very intermittent fuel freezing problem in the middle of winter as the carby heater doesn't work) and I would buy another 3.0 l petrol GQ if I needed to.

I get about 15l/100k city cycle and about 13l/100k highway. The main reason for the small difference is they struggle a bit with hills when trying to maintain 100k. They get a bit thirstier when towing as well.

All in all it depends on what you want to do with it but I reckon the lower power and cheaper economy are assets for fuel and points conservation. I can go anywhere my mates do and I usually get there at the same time but with a few laughs from the passengers when the hills come. Also the price will be cheap because no-one really wants the "little" 3.0 petrol. I paid half the going rate of the 4.2 for my 3.0 about 4 years ago and haven't looked back.

With only 30K on the clock I would take it gentle at first and check water related systems thoroughly. The gearbox is a dream to use.

My MIL got a Hyundai Sonata with less than 10K but about 10 years old. It has been a bit troublesome because of the amount of sitting it has done and very light loads it has endured (other than usual Hyundai problems).

I hope it goes well for you.

Cheers Cam
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:26

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:26
All great info thank you very much, Cam.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:39

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:39
Hi Trevor, mate the 3.0 in my old Skyline had done 450ks when I sold it bloody great motor and they came out in the VL Commodore with a turbo on it as well.
Cheers Bruce.
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Reply By: Robin - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:59

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 13:59
Hi Trevor

They are a 16 sec to 100kmh car - whereas your 4.2 is slower at approx 19 sec
and current 3lt diesel is also approx 16

No inherent issues other than carby heater plate asmentioned above usullay goes making it harder to start in cold.

I'd replace timing belt if I got one.

They have low torque of idle - can be converted to fuel injection if your that way inclined.

Strangely they carry more load than GU's

Robin Miller

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Follow Up By: Graham & Lynne - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 19:30

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 19:30
these engines crack heads lets oil into water result need new head
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Follow Up By: Robin - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:34

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:34
Think you may be referring to Skyline or commodore version Graham/Lynne.

Never seen 1 such report on the detuned patrol version in 30,000 + messages on the Patrol group site

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Member - stefan P (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:36

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:36
They crack heads if you don't follow the correct flushing and bleeding procedures, get air locks quite easy. Flush and bleed properly and they will last for years.

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 19:36

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 19:36
I have heard that they can crack the head between number three and four cylinder if poor coolant maintenance or overheated. When in EFI guise in Commodores the exhaust manifold warps pulling the number one and six cylinder studs. Replace the manifold with extractors if this happens. The engine in my VL is up to 300,000 kms withe extractors and no other problems. I love the engine, it is sweet, smooth and loves to rev.
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Follow Up By: Camoco - Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:25

Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:25
Remember the head cracking was not a nissan thing. It was a commodore thing. Mainly because of the configuration of the radiator and baffles.

I have given my coolant absolutely no maintenance and treat the engine with little respect yet it still keeps going very well. It has never shown signs of the temperature increasing or suffering with heat or abuse.

I had always intended to replace the engine hence my approach to ignorance based maintenance, but the little bugger just won't quit. I now intend to keep it and will rebuild/replace (with another rb30) when the time is right.

I can only get about 4000rpm out of the carby version but I may convert to EFI later, although that could make life harder for the outback maintenance if computer fuzzes out. The best thing about carby is KISS (keep it simple s...)

Note most of these responses are "I have heard" type of answers.
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Reply By: kiwicol - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:17

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:17
wouldnt waste my time with it as you could pick up a 4.2 diesal for the same price and have more confidance with it Col
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:59

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 20:59
Funny thing is most GQ 4.2's still bring 10k minimum. Most 3.0 GQ's bring 5k or less.
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 21:00

Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 21:00
4.2 Diesels that is. The 4.2 Petrols are the same price as the 3.0 petrols.
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Follow Up By: Camoco - Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:35

Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:35
"and have more confidance with it" - Col
Ummmm in what way?
Confidence Pros for the 3.0 petrol.......
1. Parts are cheaper
2. Parts are more plentiful
3. I have never needed parts (but I know where to get them and how much they cost)
4. Lower chance of getting stolen
5. Greater chance of getting it back if it did get stolen (you could run after them on foot LOL)
6. Maintenance is much cheaper (hasn't cost me a cent yet other than oil/filters)
7. You could push start them with your grandmother pushing it in her wheelchair

I am CONFIDENT my Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) will not exceed $10k over the entire life of my vehicle while I have it.

I would have bought a 4.2 petrol prior to buying the 3.0 based on "numbers" (bigger = better) and I may still consider a 4.2 Diesel in the future but I am happy with my 3.0 and will never be as expensive as a diesel for TCO and certainly not as expensive as the 4.2.
BUT... I don't tow a van with it. I do tow heavy trailers but not all that far.
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Reply By: lifeisgood - Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:01

Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:01
Had mine from new in 91. Now 306,000k and untouched motor/head except for a few exhaust manifold studs which failed , I thought , because of increased exhaust temp due to LPG.
Towed a lot over the years, but generally around 1 tonne. Taking my van to NT in a week. No problems on the flat (most of the country) Doesnt like hills but find the gear and go with the flow at around 3000rpm. Spend a lot of time in 4th.
Cheap to and very very reliable. Agree with most comments above. Not for the speedsters. Sounds good (30k ? wow !).
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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 13:15

Thursday, Apr 19, 2007 at 13:15
Gday
390,000 km on mine.. 1 water pump this year..Mostly to and from work with the odd trip up to the high country.three or more trips a year. I also tow a tandem trailer for work.
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