What globes are best to upgrade standard lights

Submitted: Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 07:35
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I have a 03 LC100 cruiser. Have standard lights at present. Wondering what are the best globes to upgrade these to give a better light on low beam They are pretty good to start with but would like to improve them if I can.
Lots of topics on Spotlights but what happens when you turn these off?
Look forward to your responses.
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Reply By: drivesafe - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 08:00

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 08:00
Hi Esplanade, I had the same problem as you about 5 years back and experimented with different types of globes.

After a few tests I tried the Philips Crystal Vision globes and was that impressed with them I changed all my headlights and driving lights over to these globes and I’m still using them.

On top of being white light which gives better road vision, over the nearly 4 years I’ve been using them, I’ve only replaced 3 globes out of the 10 lights I use them in and I do a LOT of night driving.

The Philips Crystal Vision globes are a good improvement for high and low beam use and another advantage is that they use only about half the power of comparable globes so you can run more of them and not over do the power requirements.

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Follow Up By: Member - Alex K (NSW) - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 08:25

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 08:25
Drivesafe,
Where are they available from?

What percent lighting improvement do you get from upgrading the globes compared to upgrading the reflectors? I ask because I assume globes would cost about $20 and the ARB reflector upgrade is about $200.

I'd be interested to hear thoughts from anyone who has invested in the ARB (or similar) upgrade light kits.

Cheers,
Alex
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Follow Up By: The Esplanade - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:42

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:42
Hi Drivesafe
Thanks for the info. What wattage globes did you put in?
Are they freely available?
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Follow Up By: drivesafe - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 13:26

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 13:26
Hi Alex and Esplanade, all the globes I use are H4 and H7 type Philips Crystal Vision which are 55 watt power rated and 110 watt light output rated and are straight replacements.

You can get them at a number of places but I’ve found Bursons to be the cheapest. It still pays to shop around.

Note, these globes give out white light light that is NOT as bright as 100 or 130 standard globes but the white light is brighter and gives much clearer vision than the yellower type globes.

I have two IPFs which I use to run 130 watt standard globes and got a marked visual improvement when I changed to the Crystal Vision 55 watt globes.

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Reply By: V8Diesel - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:25

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:25
Philips make a globe called the GT150 which is legal, white and brighter.

The degrees Kelvin rating is colour temperature - not brightness.
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Reply By: Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:51

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:51
I put a set of IPF FatBoy's in my GUIV Patrol and have found them to be awesome....About $130 from ARB and IMO worth every cent....Give 150 watt Low Beam and 190 watt at High Beam......Don't notice too much different at high beam but in low beam it is far better....They also only draw the same current as your existing lights so no need for wiring loom change....
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Follow Up By: Robin - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:33

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:33
Second that Teabag

The fatboys are a different technology and are most powerful approved
headlight globes for the wattage input and can nearly double your light output.

They do draw a liitle more at 75w.

They are best available until HID becomes fully spec'd at a reasonable
cost for headlight use.

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Follow Up By: Macca_GU - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 18:36

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 18:36
G'day again Teabag.

Seems this discussion on lighting won't go away...hahaha
I also have the Fatboys in my GU...and again was a little disappointed....Mind you just a little, Do ya think my expectations are to high....haha. Previously had the Philips Crystal Vision globes and liked em' but didn't think the Fatboys were THAT much better. Philips Crystal Vision globes = $30pair Fatboys = $130pair. I think it was because the dude at ARB wouldn't shut up about how good they were. He said you don't even need driving lights they are that good ((rubbish)) I think it was the expectation that they would perform like a driving light on High.
Well the smoke and mirrors worked I bought a set. Ohhh and the wattage is actually the reverse, they are 60/80 and beleive it or not....they are actually SUPPOSED to perform like a 150 watt on HIGH, and 190 watts on LOW.

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:24

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:24
It depends on how much money you are prepared to spend.

The Philips Blue Vision are good globes but twice the price of the Narva Artic Blue globes.

H4 is a common size, you need to match your existing globes.

The temperature of these globes wont distort the plastic reflectors used in modern vehicles.

Try a set of Narva Artic Blues (which by the way are a white light, not blue) and you should notice an improvement in both the low and high beam headlights.
They cost about $20 each, or at least did when I bought some.
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Reply By: Strahan - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:58

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:58
I thought that max wattage legally was 55w low, 60 high.......
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 13:57

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 13:57
was over 20 years ago, you can only have 55 watts on driving lights, Bumperbar type
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Reply By: ev700 - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 15:08

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 15:08
As a side comment, do others find some of the bulbs with a blue cast dazzling from some angles? The bright white lights are OK but the blue could draw a dazzled driver towards you. Having said that, I notice that most are recommending ones that appear white.

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Reply By: keepingitreal - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 15:38

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 15:38
Put a set of ARB HIR bulbs in both High and Low beams in my 100 series a couple of years ago. Cannot remember the cost, (couple of hundred $$$), but a huge improvement and a much whiter and brighter light. Was not disapointed . I run driving lights so probably didn't need to do high beam, could have saved a little $$, but much more safer on low beam!! Regards Kirsten NSW
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Reply By: RichieK - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 23:01

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 23:01
I just bought an HID upgrade kit off ebay - item no: 190098101558 - haven't hooked them up yet but reports are they are pretty good gear, esp for the $$$..just thought I'd take a punt on them

Will do a post when I get them fitted..

Cheers and beers
Rich
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:57

Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:57
did you know Toyota's have 2 different ways of wiring their headlights,
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Follow Up By: RichieK - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 09:40

Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 09:40
I did hear something in another post re this - I'm going to go to an auto sparkie for the installation, I'm pretty below par when it comes to electrics..

Cheers
Rich
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Follow Up By: phil - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 13:31

Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 13:31
Are you aware that headlights have to be self leveling if HID lights are fitted?

Phil I
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Follow Up By: RichieK - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 21:38

Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 21:38
As a famous red-headed politician once said..."Please explain?"
Sorry man, have not heard of self-levelling headlights..

Rich
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Follow Up By: RichieK - Friday, Apr 27, 2007 at 18:52

Friday, Apr 27, 2007 at 18:52
OK - Now i KNOW I'm a goose. Bought the HID kit from ebay and it arrived, looks great etc...took it to the auto electrician as I don't have time/patience to play around with things I know little about (ie electrics) and he gives me the bad news that the globes are not hi/lo beam a la regular globes, they are a single beam only and therefore would suit the highbeam lights on a dual headlight arrangement (early Hi-lux, Peugeot 504 etc) but not any regular single headlight setup..

I feel such a fool - at least I only blew $160 - ish......

Live and learn
Rich
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 23:10

Friday, Apr 20, 2007 at 23:10
With due respect to many of the posts the majority of globe upgrades suggested so far simply wont fit in a 100 series. They take an L shaped HB4U globe so doesn't leave too many options. The HIR globes are probably the best upgrade but certainly aren't cheap. One member on the lcool web site found the HIR globes in a John Deer tractor to be almost identical but cheaper.
In the low beam the HIR would be about 15 to 20% brighter for the same wattage.
Cheers Craig..................
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Reply By: phil - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 13:50

Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 13:50
Hi,

Here is a very comprehensive run down on all the types of lights and globes available, and the pro's and con's of them.
Site Link

Well worth reading.

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