Tell if you value the bush

KIm

Just ignore it.

Its a 2007 fad

All the hype will go away when it rains again.

Cheers

you have my backing
we have a daughter and son in law struggling at the minute creek dried up buying food and water to keep 180 milking cows goeing and just bought the farm last july
they could put down a bore but have to fight esso out in bass straight for the water they have 1st dibs on it for there precious oil/gas (and we still pay top dollar)rigs
why cant these compahies out in desalination plants they make billions of$ it would free up a lot of much needed water along the coast

my rant
steve

Definitely have my sympathy Kimprado and agree on global warming, I also feel the need is there to clean up the environment but I don't think that it is the end of the world yet!!! however as hard as it is for you and your family at the moment I must agree with the others in that ' as one door closers another opens'.

All the best &
Cheers

D

The pollies are like rats in a maze with the heat turned up! It's election year and they're looking for another Franklin Dam. That's all. When the rains come and the rivers fill up, how much attention do you reckon the Murray-Darling system will get from Canberra after the election?

As many of us are up at this time I will assume people are struggling through night shift as I am. If you have nothing better to do, it is worth logging on to GoogleVideo and watch a movie called and "The Great Global Warming Swindle", I am not sure if I totally agree with all of it but it is refreshing to hear the other side of the argument.

Cheers

Snowy

Global Warming is not a Myth, the Myth is the Governments and Advocates, the Media that seems to have jumped onto the bandwagon, Global Warming is just another 1 of many hundreds of cooling and warming phases the Earth has gone through over millions of years and no amount billions of dollars and effort by silly bird brained microscopic humans will have any effect, I wonder who started this Medieval Warm Period

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Or this one
During the Late Cretaceous the global climate was warmer than today's climate. No ice existed at the Poles. Dinosaurs migrated between the Warm Temperate and Cool Temperate Zones as the seasons changed

Or this one
Global cliimate during the Late Eocene was warmer than today. Ice had just begun to form at the South Pole. India was covered by tropical rainforests, and Warm Temperate forests covered much of Austrlia

Check out these periods
www.scotese.com/climate.htm

Gday Kim,
Worse than that we are running out of water and the top paddock has no feed and the gov. says that we need more people to solve it??????

Kim , now that gobal warming is a mainstream accepted fact one needs to
work from that position to get best out of one's circumstances, even if not fully convinced personnaly.

It has been obvious that we would be in this position for many years yet those
who failed to take the warning signs - or who believed it was "just another drought" and would all disappear when the rains came are simply now paying the hard price.

In all walks of life, if you don't evolve you lose and this applies to your
circumstances wether your moving into an aged care unit at 80, or just buying a new car.

Robin Miller

Take the politics out of government and the country might start to make some real progress. Too many politicians (both sides) use their positions to further their own agendas and careers at oour expense. Hang in there mate, rain is on the way.

It's not the water that is the problem, it's the number of people drinking the stuff!

Owen

I wouldnt dismiss global warming as a myth to be ignored.
Sure the 3000 climatologists from all over the world have varying opinions on when,how bad and how severe but they universallly agree that it will happen.

Many scientists all over the world have felt the heat from their employers(govt).
It not as if they are getting a big payout or a pat on the back for being bringers of bad news.
The myths are that it is non existant and should be ignored have been spread by unqualified groups supported by companies like Exxon to the tune of $60M usd.
The lawyers they hire are the same ones the tobacco industry used to ward off claims that tobacco causes cancer.

Its true that in the 70s some scientists were warning of an ice age but that is because their models were so much more primitive.
There were other groups of scientists that were warning of warming up period caused by pollution
However they were still saying there was a problem even if the outcome was different.

Independent scientists vs big oil companies that have $100 Billion a year profits (Exxon)to look after is what it boils down to.

Hi All From a long time reader and first time poster.

In the debate about climate change, I think it is important to separate the long term issues from the short term. Here in western Victoria, we have had 10 years of below average rain. I'm told that El Nino is breaking up which is a good sign for rain this Winter. This drought is still a relatively short term problem. The earth has seen many cycles of cooling and warming and that is true, but it is not that simple. Since the industrial revolution (early 1800's) the rate of change in the atmosphere has accelerated significantly, and appears to be a far steeper rate of change than previous natural (rather than man-influenced) events. Even as the debate continues, and whichever side somes up right or wrong, it won't hurt anyone or everyone to make a few lifestyle changes to minimise their impact. Little things like turning a few lights off, using the car a little less, using less water are things we can all do to help the environment and help ourselves into the future.

Please don't consider me a troll or flamer, but I'd like to ask Kim what he would like to see happen with drought relief funding. I actually have a role in delivering a small portion of DRF to farmers and it was well received. The items that Kim mentions like business planning and sucession are important when someone is managing a business and that is the direction that most farms are heading in. That is, farms are becoming more business like. I think it is positive to assist farmers become more profitable and plan better for the future. I've always thought that farming would be a great lifestyle (although it could break your heart). But, when times are tough, tough decisions need to be made.

Just my two cents, Dino