Tell if you value the bush
Submitted: Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 20:58
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kimprado
Being an old fart and having gone through most of the cycles of life, I'm becoming concerned about the character of this country.
At the moment we're going through an extended drought (have a look at the Federation Drought) There is no doubt that many parts of the country are in difficulty and the impact on communities is becoming serious.
What really gets up my nose is the attention given to bloody Global Warming at the expense of people in the bush.
I don't have a problem with cleaning up the environment, but there appears to be a bunch of urban clowns in the Eastern States trying to convince us that the World is coming to an end.
Most of the Government Drought funding is allocated to Num Nut initiatives such as:
1. Succession planning
2. Entrepreneur crap
3. Business planning
4. TAFE training
5. Exporting
All of the above are a waste of time when a man has his arse to the wall and can't feed a family.
No doubt I'll receive a fair amount of flack from this post. Quite frankly I don't care any more.
Regards
Kim
Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 03:01
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 03:01
Global Warming is not a Myth, the Myth is the Governments and Advocates, the Media that seems to have jumped onto the bandwagon, Global Warming is just another 1 of many hundreds of cooling and warming phases the Earth has gone through over millions of years and no amount billions of dollars and effort by silly bird brained microscopic humans will have any effect, I wonder who started this Medieval Warm Period
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period
Or this one
During the Late Cretaceous the global climate was warmer than today's climate. No ice existed at the Poles. Dinosaurs migrated between the Warm Temperate and Cool Temperate Zones as the seasons changed
Or this one
Global cliimate during the Late Eocene was warmer than today. Ice had just begun to form at the South Pole. India was covered by tropical rainforests, and Warm Temperate forests covered much of Austrlia
Check out these periods
www.scotese.com/climate.htm
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 07:37
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 07:37
I remember clearly in the 70s that we were heading for another Ice Age. So far all I have seen of that is the dvd.
Jack
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Reply By: Robin - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:08
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:08
Kim , now that gobal warming is a mainstream accepted fact one needs to
work from that position to get best out of one's circumstances, even if not fully convinced personnaly.
It has been obvious that we would be in this position for many years yet those
who failed to take the warning signs - or who believed it was "just another drought" and would all disappear when the rains came are simply now paying the hard price.
In all walks of life, if you don't evolve you lose and this applies to your
circumstances wether your moving into an aged care unit at 80, or just buying a new car.
Robin Miller
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Reply By: ross - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 21:48
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 21:48
I wouldnt dismiss global warming as a myth to be ignored.
Sure the 3000 climatologists from all over the world have varying opinions on when,how bad and how severe but they universallly agree that it will happen.
Many scientists all over the world have felt the heat from their employers(govt).
It not as if they are getting a big payout or a pat on the back for being bringers of bad news.
The myths are that it is non existant and should be ignored have been spread by unqualified groups supported by companies like Exxon to the tune of $60M usd.
The lawyers they hire are the same ones the tobacco industry used to ward off claims that tobacco causes cancer.
Its true that in the 70s some scientists were warning of an ice age but that is because their models were so much more primitive.
There were other groups of scientists that were warning of warming up period caused by pollution
However they were still saying there was a problem even if the outcome was different.
Independent scientists vs big oil companies that have $100 Billion a year profits (Exxon)to look after is what it boils down to.
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Reply By: Dino_Delucchi - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:18
Wednesday, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:18
Hi All From a long time reader and first time poster.
In the debate about climate change, I think it is important to separate the long term issues from the short term. Here in western Victoria, we have had 10 years of below average rain. I'm told that El Nino is breaking up which is a good
sign for rain this Winter. This drought is still a relatively short term problem. The earth has seen many cycles of cooling and warming and that is true, but it is not that simple. Since the industrial revolution (early 1800's) the rate of change in the atmosphere has accelerated significantly, and appears to be a far steeper rate of change than previous natural (rather than man-influenced) events. Even as the debate continues, and whichever side somes up right or wrong, it won't hurt anyone or everyone to make a few lifestyle changes to minimise their impact. Little things like turning a few lights off, using the car a little less, using less water are things we can all do to help the environment and help ourselves into the future.
Please don't consider me a troll or flamer, but I'd like to ask Kim what he would like to see happen with drought relief funding. I actually have a role in delivering a small portion of DRF to farmers and it was
well received. The items that Kim mentions like business planning and sucession are important when someone is managing a business and that is the direction that most farms are heading in. That is, farms are becoming more business like. I think it is positive to assist farmers become more profitable and plan better for the future. I've always thought that farming would be a great lifestyle (although it could break your heart). But, when times are tough, tough decisions need to be made.
Just my two cents, Dino
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