I thought that Coopers had fixed the side lugs tearing off
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Member - Willie , Epping .Syd.
I previously had Coopers AT . When I needed new tyres the salesman told me that Coopers had overcome the lug problem with the new ATR .
THEY HAVEN'T - I did a 10,000 klm up to and around Alice and back , and some of the lugs are completely missing , whilst others have great chunks out of them .
I got a 3 inch rip in a sidewall on Friday on that notorious 4WD drive track called the Great Western Highway - at
Leura ! Expensive trip to
Oberon .
Reply By: Redback - Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 at 11:29
Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 at 11:29
Here is my last set of Cooper ST/Cs
These were replaced under warrenty, with STTs, they are gone now as they started falling apart too, we decided NOT to go with Coopers again under their warrenty plan and went with Nankang Muds instead.
My opinion on Coopers is THEY ARE CRAP.
Tread block completely gone
Coming off
All 4 were like this
Have i mentioned COOPERS ARE CRAP
Baz.
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Reply By: Member - Syd R (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 at 13:55
Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 at 13:55
I agree. Toyo Open Country are better than Coopers ATR. I could't believe how much the Coopers cut up on the
Oodnadatta Track. Large chunks about inch square out of the tread on all tyres. In fact we lost a new one (Spare) A complete ripout of the tread, after a
puncture. I had them rotated as per the warranty etc .
I since changed them at 30000ks In
Alice Springs to the Toyo Open Country ATR and are extremely happy.
Incidently I am towing a Australian Offroad Camper Cross Terrain which has Sumitomo ATR and they have no chips out of the treads and look like new.
I paid particular attention to Tyre pressures in accordance with the Manufactures reccommondations.
Coopers are a disappointment and I will not reccommend them to anybody.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 at 15:50
Sunday, Apr 29, 2007 at 15:50
lol Open country - now there is a tyre i wouldnt recomend. Only AT tyre i have seen rip tread block off. I bought an 80 with near new open countrys and did not do one trip (less than 5k) without dramas. Tread ripped off, flats torn sidewalls - fair dinkum I wouldnt put them on a whell barrow. I had to remove them for my own saftey i like to go to woolies and make it back!
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Reply By: Jack - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:43
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:43
I am reading this post with interest,
I am about to put new tyres on my Standard 100 Series (split rims) for a trip into the Kimberly. I was going Cooper ST, but not now.
My second choice is BFG A/T 235/85/16. What are people's thoughts on the good old Bridgestone Desert Dueller 604V pattern. I have had these in the past with no issues and it would be a cheap way out. Although, the BFG A/T is rated to carry more weight.
Can you help me to decide ??
Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 09:03
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 09:03
Jack ,
I would go for the BFG - I am next time .
Willie .
PS
The sidewall tear in my Cooper was not a fault of the tyre - it would have happened to any tyre of the same cross section . My problem is with the NEW "IMPROVED" AT/R which was meant to have solved the lug problem .
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 22:19
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 22:19
Jack, I ran Cooper ATR's 285/75/R16 on my 100 series. Good tyre for ride and handling, but chipped badly on gravel and I had two cases crack around the bead with cracks also near the shoulder on both. Were off the rear and I do tow heavy trailers. Tyres were replaced after 65000km with BFG M/t 255/85R16. Much happier. It actually handles better with the muddies on the tar and gravel, although not as stable in the wet on the black stuff ( WE HAD RAIN). Hope i get reasonable wear. So far 10000km and very happy. We also run BFG M/T on Landcruiser RV ute and get about 75000km per set (tar and coarse gravel roads). Brother had Cooper ST/C on Landcruiser ute 45000, just replaced with STT's, interesting to see how they wear and compare to BFG M/T. Both utes run 265/75R16. Sorry for rambling, hope this helps rather than confuses you.
Regards Kirsten (NSW)
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 12:10
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 12:10
Well sounds like my Cooper ATR's will be tested in a few weeks to Flinders might take some photo's before I go when I get there and when
home and see what they turn out like. Not that I will be covering a lot of area only about 4000 klms but should give a indication what is happening with them. Time will tell.
I will also have two new tyres on what these will be I'm not sure as said earlier maybe Micky Thompson will look at some bridgestones and
check there prices.
The only issue is I guess is different brand tyres, which i'm not a great lover of. At least that will give me 2 new on the front and 2 on rear with 70% and two spares with approximately 70% so
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Follow Up By: 38south - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 21:34
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 21:34
I have had Coopers ST-C 265/75/16 for 60000ks. Probably 20000 on various outback roads. Through Simpson,Tanami track (stayed in 2WD)
Kimberley Karajini. Lots of bitumen down WA.
Googs track and Top of Flinders.
I have not had a
puncture. Tread down to 9 mm from 14 mm. No damage.
There is so much anecdotal stories, its very hard to get an objective opinion. I need to replace tyres soon and find teasing the truth from the sales pitches difficult. i'll probably stay wiht the Coopers ST-C as theyve served me
well.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 09:05
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 09:05
The way I have read the above posts, most appear to be first hand!
My own experience with Cooper tyres also ended in failure.
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Reply By: Lobby & Sam - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 17:55
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 17:55
After reading your opinions of Cooper tyres thought Id give you our lowdown on them. Put Cooper ST's on our brand new Landcruiser RV ute took off for round Australia trip, rotated every 10000 ks after 30000 ks huge horizontal cracks and bulges appeared on the sidewalls of two passenger side tyres....took them off and put on two spares (10000 ks on them after rotation) went back to dealer after much discussion they prorata'd two tyres when they took them off the rims they discovered that the RV alloys were damaged. So we had to replace the rims as
well So four Steel rims were purchased. Then we started investigating just what caused the rims to deteriorate we were duck shoved betweem Toyota and Cooper tyres for a few months and they eventually rang us to say that a recall on ST's x16 (our size)had been put in place because of bulging sidewalls which they blamed on the rubber compound. 6 new tyres and no rims off we go again feeling slightly better about Cooper Tyres 20,000 ks later we are travelling along and I
check the tyres as you do and bugger me a whole lug is gone down to the wire. Now I am a patient man but I am not even contacting Coopers again (a mans had enough of the bull bleep ) And the only use I have for them is to drop fuel drums off the back of the ute onto and even then I still have to
check the sidewalls for damage!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:57
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:57
Lobby and Sam and everyone else . Thanks for all the good input on this post . I hope the people from Coopers read it .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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