Air tank
Submitted: Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 14:25
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Member - Troll 81 (QLD)
I have been toying with the idea to install a air
tank in the Patrol to help speed up inflating tyres when we come off
the beach and 4x4 tracks...where do you install it so that it's save and out of the way? I don't have any room in the engine bay so it will have to go under the car but not sure where to put it and I will have to put a plate or something under it to protect from rocks etc etc. I currently just have the ARB compressor that runs the lockers but I want to buy a new pump anyway soon but will the ARB compressor fill the
tank up quick enough once I start pumping?
Thanks
Reply By: Robin - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 14:44
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 14:44
Not worth it Troll , as not very effective.
I still use both ARB lockers compressor and spare tyre air
tank
which is pretty quick using both , however will ditch ARB
compressor for much larger capacity pump soon as I can.
Problem is size, even reasonable size say 24lt air
tank
at 100 psi can't match the spare tyre at 65psi and extra value comes
from having 2 fully independant systems.
Robin Miller
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Reply By: Ron George - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 14:50
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 14:50
G/DAY Troll, if the air is just for the tyres I wouldn`t bother with a
tank, just go for a pump with the biggest capacity (CFM) & inflate em straight off the pump. I`d leave the ARB compressor for the lockers. If on the other hand you want a burst of compressed air to say, blow some crap out of something using an air gun then a
tank would be the go, there are some nifty little LPG bottles that would fill that roll, all you`ve got to do is work out where you`re going to put it???????? good luck.
Cheers RG.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 15:36
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 15:36
My air
tank is mounted infront of the rear axle above the drive shaft more to the right away from the exhaust
Ray
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 15:38
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 15:38
Why be in a hurry when you come of the sand or the dirt?? Airing up the tyres gives you time for a brew or have a squizz around the vehicle !!
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Reply By: Member - John - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 17:06
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 17:06
Troll, I have an old air con compressor ala "endless air" 8 cfm, but if I was only using the arb compressor, I would look at putting some small bottles in the wings of the bull bar......My two cents worth
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Reply By: Member - John - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 17:07
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 17:07
P.S. Just had another thought, you have no winch, maybe mount a bottle there as
well.
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Reply By: Craigww2 - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 18:16
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 18:16
As a previous poster has wrote it is only good for a burst of air cause once your
tank pressure equalises with the tyre you are now trying to fill the tyre and
tank to the appropriate pressure could be twice the volume. My ARB compressor got too hot after doing one car and it actually melted the little plastic plunger inside (only $1 part) and failed to inflate any more.
Mine is mounted up beside my chasis rail under the pass side (100 Series) with a hose leading to a QD coupling mounted on the rear bar. I also have a one way valve between the comp and
tank, this allows me to disconnect at the comp end also with a QD so I can directly use the comp.
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 19:02
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 19:02
I got a second hand
tank used by the fire brigade for personal breathing aparatus. It holds 205 Bar of air, which is enough to fill 13 265/70R17 tyres from dead flat to 40 psi.
I get it filled at my local SCUBA diving
shop and it cost $6.00 per fill. There are SCUBA shops in most coastal towns. It fills a tyre from flat in less than one minute. It is about 20" tall and 8" in diameter and I just wedge it in the back of the vehicle with all the other junk we travel with. It is aluminium and fibreglass so it doesn't weigh a lot.
It doesn't need a long hose as it is light enough to carry from wheel to wheel (especially good for trailer tyres.)
Cheers,
Russ.
Russ.
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Reply By: mrbasilbrush - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 19:22
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 19:22
I have a 15 litre alloy
tank under my tray, which is filled by a bushranger 75 ltr/min compressor.
I takes approx 4 minutes to fill to 100 PSI. Then I can pump almost 2 tyres (33"x12.5x15) from 20 psi to 35psi in seconds. but then I have to let ot build up pressure again to continue.
I`m a bit of a gadget man thats why I rigged one up. Really only good for is to pump up basket balls and push bike tyres, or blow out air filters and be a show off around your mates. But you have to wait for the
tank to fill first.
Have fun
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Reply By: Middle Jeff - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 19:58
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 19:58
Hi Troll
I have a 20lt
tank on the bottom of my cargo barrier behind the fridge, it is fed by the ARB compressor and a big black one in the rear guard. The pressure switch on the ARB controls both pumps through relays. I have a coil hose with a air gun which is great for blowing out dust and dirt that the kids drag in and air filters. I also put a tap on the hose that helps refill the
tank instead of blowing dust everywhere, I have 35" tyres and can go from 18psi to 40psi faster than most people with 31". I have the air connection in the back of my draw system, all I have to do is open the back door and plug my hose in and I am away.
Have fun
Craig
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:17
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:17
Mixed responses but looks like a endless air will work better :) Does anyone know the cost to get one fitted?
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Follow Up By: _gmd_pps - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:54
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:54
I have been looking at endless air but wherever you ask people throw the hands in the air and say nooooo way ... so you have to do it yourself .. they offer kits for the jap cars and a few others ... In my truck it was too hard ... a couple of people I talked to reported slipping belts and tensioner problems ...
I went for an electrical solution .. extreme air magnum from the US ..
there is no useable 12V compressor for me in Australia .. just rubbish ...
low duty cycle and low volume ... the VIAIR 100% duty cycle is 1.6cfm or so ..
so not much air .. I have 12 tyres to air up to 50-60psi ...
The downside of that compressor is 90 amp draw .. but thats ok for me ..
good luck
gmd
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 21:44
Monday, Apr 30, 2007 at 21:44
the bracket alone is $380 for a GU, then the compressor another $200-300 then the air hoses etc...
I bought a GQ setup off a bloke in the club, but it dont fit, mounting is different to GU for some reason...
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