Spare tire off rim
Submitted: Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 13:48
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Rumbler
Look guys, call me what you like, but I hate 4WD accessory prices. I'm going to embark on a major tour (to UK) starting Jan 2008. I've made most things myself & feel I'm better prepared because I've done it all myself & trialled it all. Now to a question, I've been told that rather than take a second spare (I'll have the normal Troopy space on the back door), to take the second as just a tire up on the roof rack (assume I've done a few practice tire changes on split rims). It can be used to store hoses & other light spares in. With a mesh floor on the rack, I believe all I need do fit an insert on top of the tire (once filled) that is locked using 25mm steel to the rack. The design is not my problem, I just wanna know if there's a better idea?
Reply By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 14:02
Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 14:02
Good idea Rumbler the only issue might be if you shread/destroy a tyre....where are you going to put all the things that WERE stored in the carcus of the good spare?? I'd get a little canvas duffle bag to keep all the bits in so atleast they can still be stored somewhere else if the above occurs.
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Follow Up By: hiab - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 16:12
Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 16:12
carcass
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:18
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:18
Thanks for the thought, but I think for the short time I'd have to "restore" spares from the ruined tire, I can store inside the truck.
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Reply By: hiab - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 16:11
Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 16:11
tyre
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:21
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:21
Thanks. It's the Irish in me, must think I'm an American.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 17:20
Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 17:20
When people travel with us with split rims, I insist they take 2 spares on rims. For whatever reason they seem to get more flat tyres than those with tubeless. Often this is due to tube fatigue, split seams or crud in the tyre, and not punctures.
When you
puncture a tyre on a split rim, the tyre goes down straight away. If you get 2 flats in a day, you'll be fixing tyres by the side of the road.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:20
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:20
Good point. I'll think on this & ask others what they've experienced. Thanks Phil.
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 17:50
Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 17:50
Well, if you like wrestling tyres onto rims by the side of the road in the middle of a sand/dust/rain storm, then go for it.
But for comfort and speed, take it on a rim.
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Follow Up By: Wizard2 - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 16:45
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 16:45
Footloose,
be careful saying things like that on this
forum. There are a few neandethals that apparently love doing just that. They think those of us smart enough to carry a second spare as not being worthy.
Some sort of right of 4WD passage if you change your own tyre on the side of the road making cups of tea and such. Seems a quick change of tyre and keep on going means you must be in a hurry.
I carry two spares. The one time I didn't I got two punctures on the same day which couldn't be plugged!
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:36
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:36
Wiz, I am speaking from experience, having done it both ways.
If any of the neandathals want to have a go, fair enough. Bring it on, I'm getting used to it on here.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:28
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:28
I take your points. I'm still not convinced, remembering I'm not really "doing 4WD stuff", although I certainly expect to meet some bad roads in Cambodia & China. I guess I'm of the idea that if it has to be done, it'll have to be done. I'll be in no hurry. But I asked for advice so like the other comment, I'll keep an open mind, thinking & keep asking around. Thanks guys.
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:07
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:07
A lot of people up here have two spare wheels mounted back to back on the troopy door - I am not sure if they reinforce the door or not, but there are a lot of North Western folks doing it - particularly remote ones.
Cheers
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:35
Monday, May 07, 2007 at 19:35
I guess from the comments so far, I really do need to think this one through. I just don't see myself getting 2 flats in a row without access to mechanical help. I'm driving through a country, I won't be looking for the most desolated place. I need to think & seek more input remembering what I intend doing. Thank Andrew.
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