6.5db antenna or 5db antenna for CB

Submitted: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 12:32
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Currently in process of installing a GME 3220 CB into my 80 series and not sure which antenna whip would be best suited to travelling around Australia. Have been told the following:

1. 6.5db spring based whip better over long flat distances
2. 5db spring based whip better in hilly areas (more of an allrounder ?!)

Only drawback with the 5db antenna is that it the whip is permanently fixed to the base however the 6.5db antenna is not. (After the big trip may not need the whip attached for cruising around town)

Any thoughts or experiences appreciated ??

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Birdy
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Reply By: Robin - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 12:55

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 12:55
Hi Birdy

In terms of range most important is that from the middle of your antenna you should be able to have an unobstructed view in all directions and that that point be as high as possible.

Hence unless you have a large roof rack etc, the best antenna is the cheapest , a quarter wave whip mounted in centre of roof at $13 each.

In also uses less cable to connect which means less losses and generally
less electrical interference from engine bay, and obstructs your view less.

If mounting on a bull bar make sure its a ground indepenant antenna.

P.S. I think you mean 5dbi not 5db etc

On the positive side from what I've seen the main benefit of those antenna types is that they make a good impromtu sand flag mount, in which case get the longest one.

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Follow Up By: Birdy - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:20

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:20
Thanks Robin.

Yep I think I meant dbi also - whoops !

Yep will have a large alloy roof rack so roof mounted is prob not an option.

Will check that its a ground independant antenna.

Thanks again, still unsure wether to go the 5dbi or 6.5dbi ?

Birdy
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Follow Up By: Robin - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:38

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:38
Hi Birdy
You probably gathered I'd never put one on a bull bar , but consider the Benelec from D smith etc.

It has unscrewable top whip section and comes with two whips allowing it to be 3dbi or 6dbi (you carry both and this gives you a backup as well.

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Reply By: Olcoolone (SA) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:29

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:29
There is not much differance between 6.5 db and 5db regarding performance over hill or flat terain.

If you compaired a 5db or 6.5db to a 1/4 wave then you will notice abit of a differance due to the radiating patern.

There is no all rounder antenna that is going to do every thing good.

A 1/4 wave will work good on flat ground and a 5db or 6.5db will work OK in hilly stuff.

If there was a big differance we would all be changing antenna every 5 minute.

Go with the best antenna that suits you requirerment.

Just don't use one of those W$%^&R big white bull bar mount ones.

Remember its not the size but the design that works.

Regards Richard

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Follow Up By: Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:38

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:38
I guess that makes me one of these then......

Quote,"Just don't use one of those W$%^&R big white bull bar mount ones."

Interesting assessment....
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Reply By: Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:30

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:30
This may help with your decision, well I hope it helps.....

http://www.rfi.com.au/rfitechTips/tech_tips_dec_2005/tech_tips_page182_183.pdf
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Follow Up By: Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:50

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:50
By the way, I use an GME AE 4705 (4.5db) for general use and in hilly terrain and a GME AE 4706 (6db) for open plain area type work.....Works for me though I'm one of those big white aerials on the bullbar t*##ers.......hehehe
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Follow Up By: Stu050 - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 14:07

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 14:07
I use a GME AE409L on the guard. Use the 6db kit round town, and the 9db in the bush. It has worked fine for the past 15 years and 3 cars. Used to have one of those big white aerials on the bullbar, but got the Codan 9350 there now.
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Follow Up By: Olcoolone (SA) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 17:13

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 17:13
Gday Teabag, the reason I hate those BIG WHITE things is if you hit something or can't stop in time and you hit a tree branch you loose your antenna and the brackets they weld onto bull bars arn't strong enough.

We do not mount any antennas of bull bars anymore.

We try and go on the gaurd, the rear or on the roof.

If you brake one when you are away you loose all UHF comms as they are harder to get in small towns or truckstops.

Most of the time the performance is poor and not as good as some of the standard antennas around but you pay a premium for those BIG WHITE antennas.

It was a craze with a lot of truckies about 4 years ago to use them, we replaced alot of then for customers because they were shaking then apart, most use good quality 6db standard desinged antennas now.

The antenna we like most is the 6/9db GME antenna kit or the Laser brand antennas.

RFI are very good but a bit harder to get for spare parts.

Regards Richard

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Follow Up By: Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 17:39

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 17:39
Mine has been fine but I guess, different strokes for different folk.....I'm very happy with mine, especially in performance and have noticed it out perform in range to many other makes and models......I just thought is was a humorous assessment of a good quality product (GME AE Range) to make.....Though we are all entitled to our own views......Good luck and Happy Wheeling....
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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:32

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 13:32
I use a GME 4702 antenna with my 3400. I think it's 4.5db and the longer options are 6db. It has a removable whip that can be changed for a stumpy one round town. Works fine as an alround solution.

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Reply By: Birdy - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 14:15

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 14:15
Looking at either of these antennas at the momen t??

Option 1

RFI CD900 Rugged 6.5db Antenna ($90)

Ideal for 4WD, heavy transport, mining or industrial uses. Antenna is available in Black of Chrome. Choose your colour below.

Ultra flexible yet extremely robust 6.5db
Elevated feed and ground independant.
Australian Made and the best we have seen..
The whip section is wound from stainless steel
Antenna is injection moulded with polypropylene for rigidity .
This allows road vibrations to be transferred to the flexible tapered tip
Eliminating metal fatigue and whip breakages.
A heavy-duty antenna includes a heavy-duty spring.
4.5m of RG580 cable and connector
900mm total length inluding base and spring
12 Month Warranty

Option 2 ($109)

RFI CD5000 Rugged 5db Antenna

A rugged & extremely robust antenna which is ideally suited to 4WD bullbar mounting. With a 13mm stud mount and ground plane independant design, this antenna may be installed onto a number of mounting brackets such as mirror mounts, bull bar mounts, gutter mounts or fender mounts and are ideal for installations in commercial vehicles, four wheel drives and trucks. They can even be used as a base station antenna due to their ground plane independent design.

Black 860mm radiating element
Integral heavy duty electro-polished stainless steel spring
Ground independant deisgn
May be mounted on bullbars, gutter or fender mounts
Can even be used as a Base station antenna
Supplied with 4.5m RG cable
PL259 coaxial connector

Option 3 ($105)

3 & 6.5db Ground Independant 4WD Antenna Package
CD900 6.5 db Ground Independant Antenna (Full info and pic above)
3 & 6.5db Gain Whips Supplied
Elevated Feed
Heavy Duty Spring
Extremely Robust
4.5m Coaixal Cable and PL259 Connector
Measures 900mm in 6.5db mode (Total length including Spring)

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Follow Up By: Birdy - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 14:17

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 14:17
Can be viewed on this website for any one interested in their specs. Great site with good prices. Was recommended it by someone on this site !

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Reply By: rbt - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 19:45

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 19:45
I have a front bullbar mounted spring-based aerial of recognisable brand that with a gme220.

The aerial only protudes 1 foot higher than my 4x4 vans roof

a half-length roof rack is mounted towardrs the rear & tou-stacked just a little higher than the top of the aerial.....

should i
a) by a taller 5db aerial for the front. The aerial mount is heavy-duty
a) by a much taller 5db aerial for the front.
b) buy a twin rig aerial & mount the short second aerial on the roof-rack
c) point the vehicle in differant directions when trying to find a chat
d) dont worr if im stuck in a hole i really need a base station

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Reply By: blue one - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 20:05

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 20:05
AM is better in the hills. Not much difference with a 6.5 or 5db as both are line of sight.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Fizz (NSW) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:43

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:43
Check out the GME site.
This should answer your question:

www.gme.net.au/land/brochures.php

and choose Antennae
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Follow Up By: Birdy - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 09:58

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 09:58
Thanks - some good info !!!
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Reply By: kiwicol - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 09:38

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 09:38
i have fitted both, keeping the shorter arieal for around town but when travelling run the larger giving the convieniance of changing due to conditions, easy enough to change over plugs under bonnet, also having a spare when having problems with one arieal was a god send as well. Col
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Reply By: The Birds (WA) - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 22:36

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 22:36
Decided to go for the 6.5db antenna with the 3db whip as an extra for only $15 more

Cheers

Birdy
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