Fraser Island

Submitted: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 20:58
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In regards to Fraser island again will a Toyota Kluger (no low range) and a Kia Sportage (ground clearance ??,early model) do the island ok ?? or is low range needed for the kluger which means it wont be going and they will have to hire out a cruiser or something. We also have two prados myn and a 120 series going and a 2.7p hilux all 4x4. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: chisel - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:12

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:12
Kluger and sportage should both be fine, in my opinion. Plenty of more capable soft-roaders on fraser all the time (eg. x-trail, forester but maybe not a cr-v although I have seen them). Both might have the odd problem here and there but nothing a quick snatch or a push won't fix. They would both probably struggle at ngkala rocks depending on conditions - so a trip to sandy cape might be difficult.
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Reply By: Dave from P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:12

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:12
Can a Kluger travel Fraser Island??

Yes!

Will the owners have a relaxing trip, confident that they aren't going to find something that will test the vehicle to its limit around the next corner?

No!

I would suggest that if it is an Auto, then no low range shouldn't be that big a concern. However, ground clearance, angles, and articulation can be. it is possible to visit Fraser after good rain in a quiet period and have no dramas at all, but then the same tracks can be a low range crawl with holes that can test even your Prados the next time you visit.

The advice I give when asked this question is to "Drive to Hervey Bay, park the -in this case Kluger- hire a -insert favourite 4by, such as a defender soft top...- and enjoy your trip"

---I'm based in Hervey Bay and am heading to the Island tomorrow ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:04

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:04
Hi there Dave thanks for the info, any chance of leading me in the right direction as to who to hire a 4by from up there any one you recomend so he can chase it up. I did suggest that to him that he just drives his car there and leave this side of the island and hire a 4by up there. He does get a special price through hertz as they use them for his company he works for, but I also said that he will need to tell them he is taking to fraser and check out any insurance details for off road use if its allowed but that was hiring from here in Sydney and driving up etc. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Dave from P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:16

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:16
I personally deal with Safari and Aussie Trax, both are good companies to deal with.

fraserisland4wd.com.au/

cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:16

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:16
Thanks Dave much appreciated. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: age - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 07:14

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 07:14
Stephen

Take the Kluger - it will be fine - 170 odd Kw on tap/let tyres down - don't think the trip to at least Indian will be a problem. Let your tyres down to approriate levels for the condition of the sand and drive to the tide. There have been guys hauling 7m boats to Orchid Beach (over Indian blow) for the last 2 weeks for the Toyota fishing comp - if they can do it, a Kluger will kill it. Our family have been going/living/boating at Orchid beach for 30 years and I don't think we have ever used low range except for backing the boat up the driveway.

Re Nkgala blow - if it has been dry, this can be a pretty soft run and a lower clearance soft roader will probably scrape bottom a few times. But go there any day and watch the unprepared in Landcruisers/Patrols/F250's get terribly stuck - drive/prepare for the conditions and state of the tide. I have seen Kombi's go over this blow when it is packed down.

Cheers

A

Go and enjoy and stop stressing - it just isn't thatt hard over there as long as you use common sense.
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Follow Up By: chisel - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 09:15

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 09:15
I completely agree.
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Reply By: rbt - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 23:16

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 23:16
imho compromise can be an adventure ..

getting stuck leading out from the campsite and holding up the out going day-party for three hours, then later comparing snatch-straps & 12v wine-colers **priceless**

Take the darn soft-wheelers, theres nothing 'your group', very-low tyre preasures and/or $800 wont get you out of...

ps thomas, 7/8 Ngkala vs my L3004x4, reason, for gawking at the beautifull view...

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Reply By: Member - Alan (WA) - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 08:50

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 08:50
Not sure on the vehicles, but if you do take them, make sure they have proper recovery points fitted.

Have fun.

Alan
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Reply By: ev700 - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 11:15

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 11:15
We towed a Kluger to and from a camping spot on North Stradbroke. Easier than continual snatching. In soft sand it would spin one wheel at a time, getting nowhere. It had reduced pressure in the tyres.

Klugers are nice cars and I was surprised it was so inept in the fine soft stuff.

EV700
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 12:56

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 12:56
Hi there EV700, so you are suggesting NOT to take one to fraser ?? Do they not have a lock to like a centre diff lock or any thing like that so you have 50/50 front to back. I know the xtrails have this but they are bloody useless in auto if the going gets tough as when the auto tranny gets hot they revert back to 2wd automatically and leave you strandard. I know its a good feature as to not burn out the clutches on the auto box but is a pain also. I have towed one off stockton beach due to the tranny getting hot, and my neighbour has also towed one off with his pajero for the exact same reason and it actually did damage to the auto tranny. If he cant take the kluger on the island then he will hire one out up there when we get there,but he was asking me about the xtrails just to save a few $$ in fuel cost but told him that if he is going to hire some thing out then get a cruiser or some thing with low range and some ground clearance. I have seen heaps of subarus, rav4's etc on stockton but then I have never travelled the harder parts of fraser so have no idea what the conditions can be like except for the responses on here. Last thing we want to be doing is snatching some one every 5 minutes due to ground clearance etc. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Philip A - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 13:15

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 13:15
I used to drive Fraser in a VW Type 3.
The key issue on the inland tracks is ground clearance.
My Type 3 would go much further than the Subarus because I had it higher. I used to get into Happy Valley in the old days when no Subaru could do it.
So, especially with a loaded Kluger it would be OK to stick to the ocean beach, but I would not try any tracks unless it rains of course. LOL.
I went to Central Station in my Type 3 after overnight rain.
Regards Philip A
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Reply By: Shawsie (Bris) - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 13:15

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 13:15
Brings back memories of my first trip to Moreton in the wifes Rav4 (eek!). Got bogged 100m off the barge LOL. Had to flog it and burn the clutch, but got all over Moreton and back to camp and also learned how to drive in soft sand along the way ;o) Take em both and have a great time - you'll remember it.
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Reply By: possum_heidi - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 14:14

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 14:14
I took my Kluger to Fraser xmas 05/06. Got stuck a few times in the first few days. Clearance or lack of it was an issue - make your own tracks on the beach. I found driving it more like a manual and forcing the gear changes down to 1st in the softer stuff worked best, momentum also helped.

I had the cvx with the saftey pack and the warning noises from the traction control where a bit annoying. The check engine light came on after fueling up on the island as well but it went off once we filled up on the main land again.

Going over Indian Head and down to Orchid Beach was probably the worst, but the sand was like talcum powder, and so hot it burnt your feet.

Handled the other inland tracks to the lakes and kingfisher bay no problems. Lost a few plastic bits though on one trip to kingfisher.

We used the front screw in things as recovery points with an equaliser strap. Spent most of the trip with with snatch strap and equaliser strap permanently attached and stuck throught the passenger's window.

We always drove with a larger car infront and behind the kluger and the kia sportage incase they needed to be recovered

also the kia sportage - it was flat towed of the island.
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 20:15

Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 20:15
Hi Stephen
As per our conversation yesterday, the place I was thinking about is Cathedral Beach. I haven't stayed there but the facilities were very impressive and the service is great.
We were there in peak period, easter, and it was not crowded in the park.
It is protected form on shore winds as well.
My two cents worth is take the cluger. Reduce the tyre pressures and you will be surprised how good it is. If you can judge the tides right and drive below the high tide mark you could take a commodore. The hardest part will be getting on and off the barge.
See Ya
Scott
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 20:29

Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 20:29
Thanks Scott much appreciated. Was telling wife last night about Cathedral Beach. Sounds the go, was also telling wife about your tomato sauce eppisode should have seen the eyeballs come out the head when I mentioned what had eaten it Priceless ah what a laugh I had, but she still going. Thanks alot will let you know what we decide on. Again Thanks Steve M
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